Eight months of war have reduced nine-year-old Yunis Jumaa to skin and bone.
Stretched out, semi-unconscious on a hospital bed in Khan Younis in southern Gaza, his twisted frame is hard to look at.
His arms and legs like matchsticks, his knee joints bulging, his chest heaves with the skin stretched tight over his rib cage.
“My son was in excellent health before, he was normal,” says his mother Ghanima Jumaa.
“But when he developed this malnutrition and dehydration, he became as you see him now.”
Oh, I wonder who took the pipes out to make rockets.
Israel has admitted to shutting off the clean water supply to Gaza. No pipes were dismantled to make rockets out of them Israel just turned off the tap.
And Israel was the party that bombed Palestinian water storage sites https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68969239
Right..
Did you read the article i linked?
Yes I did. You know what was working prior to Oct7? Water and sewage systems. You know what was working even better some time before hamas took the water pipes out to make bombs? Water delivery was. Do you think Hamas, as an elected government, is lacking food and water? Do you think hostages are? The answer to that is no. They all take priority over innocent people. They claim they care about them, but in reality leaders sit in penthouses in other country rich as all hell while civilians have to squeeze beetroots for two drops of water. Hamas leader has literally billions of dollars. You know how much bottled water and food that buys? You can scream apartheid as much as you want… the fact is civilians suffer while members of Hamas enjoy themselves.
Need some proof of that. Do you have links?
It’s already linked. If you are asking about the video where Hamas shows how they took the pipes out and are making rockets. If you want some other thing proven, do specify. Also thanks for the down-votes. I don’t give a shit about imaginary points from terrorist apologists.
Yes, do keep whining. That’ll help your weak-assed case.
Israel publicly admitted they shut the water off to Gaza. This has nothing to do with Hamas. Your video contains no evidence of what you are alleging. Only some text and the comments are turned off which is not a great sign for credibility.
The water pipes to Gaza are fully functional and Israel even temporarily turned them on a while ago under international pressure. The other water storage and cleaning infrastructure in Gaza such as the desalination plant has been bombed by Israel. This is proven by satellite imagery in the BBC article.
I never said they didn’t. I said removing pipes didn’t help the situation. Why are you people so bound on to something I never said. Can you read?
You blamed Hamas for this which is clearly not true.
The water pipe case you are talking about is not affecting the current situation. The water pipes are fully functional but Israel shut them off.
Both are to blame as neither Hamas nor Israel benefits from peace. Before you start shouting “bothsidesing!!!” understand that I am not endorsing Israel. And don’t say “Hamas had no choice! They are oppressed and have to fight back”. That argument doesn’t hold water either as Hamas’s express objective is the elimination of the state of Israel. And before you say “Where does it say that???” I’ll ask that you familiarize yourself with the charter. And before you say “Well they don’t mean elimination of all Jews, just the state” I’ll point you to any Arab nation where Jews live freely and comfortably. And on and on we go.
I wonder how many water and sanitation facilities have been damaged or destroyed by the Israelis occupation force
A lot probably. But Hamas taking out the pipes didn’t help the matter either.
Got a source that isn’t some mongrel barking the words of the Israel State which is currently engaged in genocide? Cuz i have lots of sources calling this a genocide, and just you saying “naw actually hamas stuck a stick in their own bike wheel.”
I never mentioned Israel and war in any part of my comment. I said Hamas taking out water pipes didn’t help the situation. Which is true no matter how much you Hamas-apologists tried. There’s no need to even look for source, they published the video themselves bragging how they made weapons from pipes Israel laid. It’s all over the internet.
Here’s one
Israeli bombs.
Do you have sympathy for the emaciated child? What do you think about that?
That’s a far fetched conclusion. You should read my comment again.
It was a question not a conclusion. Actually I asked so I didn’t have to come to one before understanding what your position is
I do have sympathy for innocent people. What kind of monster would I have to be to think otherwise. It’s kind of a silly question.
It’s because I don’t understand how you can see that image and read that story and immediately jump to Hamas. Instead of saying “this has to stop” all you did was point the finger at Hamas. It comes across as totally callous
Because they contribute to the suffering and people here justify that. Am not excusing anyone harming innocent, but people here clearly are. Just look at the down-votes. Not that they matter but they clearly illustrate what people think about the situation. You have two sites fighting and innocent are suffering. But one side gets to have all the blame. NO. Both are to blame. Hamas more so than Israel.
The problem is that Israel actually announced that they were going to cut off food and water to the population, and they have recently destroyed vital infrastructure. So if you come at this without acknowledging that of course people are going to downvote you.
Both yes. But how is Hamas more to blame than Israel?
I would like to see your source about the pipes, it seems a little unclear from a quick Google. But it seems like the bigger problem is the destruction of the desalination plants by Israel. Even if they were in tact they need fuel to run. I find it difficult to believe that this is truly more on Hamas than it is on Israel.
Source? Hamas posted the video themselves. How Hamas is more to blame than Israel. Well prior to Oct7 water was there, there was food and most importantly people were alive, on both sides. Now, one can twist the logic and say yea but Israel oppresses, two state solution, apartheid, etc. But all that is irrelevant as first blood was drawn by Hamas. Resulting deaths are a response to that. You can call it exaggerated response or brutal or whatever. But it’s still a response. If Hamas really cared about civilians they wouldn’t hide behind them, all of the donation money wouldn’t go to Qatar or first aid trucks robbed. There’s no act in this world that justifies raping innocents and torturing kids on camera for whole world to see and then slashing their throat. No matter how how much mental gymnastics is involved or how much claim there’s someone else started it first.
The pipes taking water out of Gaza and into settlements?
Water pipelines, you know for supplying water. There’s not such thing as taking water out of Gaza, unless it’s sewage. If they had water in Gaza they wouldn’t be in problem, wouldn’t they?
Will you ever stop with the Genocide and Apartheid apologia?
Where have I justified genocide?
You just currently did it by justifying the Water Control of the Occupied Palestinian Territories, and it’s not hard to find more apologia in your history
https://lemmy.world/comment/10200509
Deliberately ignoring all the hospitals Israel has bombed before and after the one instance where it was inconclusive
https://lemmy.world/comment/10204884
Falsely stating that Israel is trying to minimize civilian deaths while ignoring the over 500 incitements to genocide, the use of power targets, and the deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure
Maybe I’m wrong, do you acknowledge that this is an ongoing genocide or that Israel is an Apartheid State?
Whether it is genocide or not is not up to me to decide. Facts are huge number of civilians are dying. However if you wish to claim Israel is not trying to minimize civilian deaths you should educate yourself more because they definitely do. From calling people and telling them to evacuate, to flyers thrown, to roof knocking and more tactics. There’s not a single army on this planet that does this, especially during the war.
Now you can go through my post history and point things out, but I’ve never said anything I haven’t fact checked. So feel free to double-check everything poking your eyes. And am not deliberately ignoring anything. War is ugly and disgusting, especially in one where many innocents die. But no matter how you twist your logic to make me appear evil or excuse Hamas or whatever the agenda is, the matter of the fact is… Hamas started it. Every time. Number of times now. You can go on and talk about apartheid and evil this, or two state solution. At no point was there an attempt from Hamas to peacefully resolve issues. It’s always stabbings on the street, bombs under a bus or something else. In fact list goes on for quite a while.
Oh and the comment you quoted as me “apologizing” for Israel. Here’s the link to that as well. But keep living in that bubble. There’s not a single thing I falsely stated while you on the other hand are on a crusade yourself without investing any effort to back your claims. Just rambling.
Have you seen what roof knocking is like?
Or that they stopped the roof knocking on Oct 9th 2023?
Or that the repeated evacuation orders, where somehow millions of people are supposed to evacuate in a mere 24 hours with no cell service, electricity, food, or water, is blatant ethnic cleansing
Or that Israel has repeatedly bombed evacuation routes, places outside the evacuation zones, and ‘safe’ zones?
Sorry, I mean ‘safer zones’ since a Safe Zone has an international definition that Israel fails to meet.
Or the deliberate targeting of civilian areas as Power Targets
Or the use of Lavender and Where’s Daddy which intentionally bomb whole families and civilians
After the founding of Israel, the Two-State Solutions were utilized to further annex the Palestinian Occupied Territories and enact military control over Palestinians while denying them human and civil rights. This is apartheid. Despite this, both Fatah and Hamas have accepted a Two-State Solution on the 1967 borders, with the two most important factors being the Right of Return of Palestinian refugees and an end to the permanent occupation. Israel has had no intention on peace, as evidence of the constant land grabbing, dividing the West Bank into hundreds of isolated enclaves.
The Israeli imposed closure on Gaza began in 1991, temporarily, becoming permanent in 1993. The barrier began around Gaza around 1972. After the ‘disengagement’ in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of ‘dual-use’ Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted. This has been a deliberate tactic of De-development, part of the systemic violence of the Apartheid Regime.
The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
Oslo Accord Sources: MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ
History of peace process - The Intercept
Israel has repeatedly refused any permanent ceasefire, here is a list that follows the ceasefire talks week by week
Hundreds of Genocide Scholars have described this ethnic cleansing campaign as genocide because of the deliberate targeting of children/civilians and expressed intent by Israeli officials.
“A Textbook Case of Genocide”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Raz Segal Decries Israel’s Assault on Gaza
Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide – Continuously Updated
AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC
Don’t paint me as a Hamas support either, I’ve been critical of them too. I don’t think they should rule and they should also be tried for their war crimes. But that doesn’t change the reality of the Apartheid. And no free fair election for Palestinians can happen under an Apartheid, that must end first.