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I hate when the far right says, “Who’s gonna pay for it?!” Referring to any program that would help the poor or needy… What would Jesus do? Asshole.
There’s a bill in the Canadian senate right now for UBI, and yeah, this is what the conservatives are saying.
For anyone interested in the bill: https://www.ubiworks.ca/guaranteed-livable-basic-income
Jesus would make sure they are tested for drugs before curing their leprosy.
how do we know they don’t want to stay leprous ?
Jesus would make a dupping glitch with food
We already see what happens with you duplicate glitch books/knowledge/art
Magic?
Yes, the magic of an impromptu potluck
Literally the whole point of this “miracle” was to show how if everyone pools resources, there’s more than enough to go around
But that didn’t fit the message the Romans were going for, so they magic’d it up
The only food mentioned is the little kid fishes and bread. If it were more, pretty sure they’d mention it as well.
The whole point was that they were far away from the nearest place to buy food and money for feeding about 15k people would exceed even a yearly salary
Literally there was not enough food in the whole group for a “potluck”
Jesus made a speech, they passed around the baskets his group had for the meal, and suddenly they more than enough
Do you think they had grocery stores? That they catered events? That they even had a salary, and carried money instead of food?
I don’t even know where all these numbers and money focus are coming from, but they weren’t in the text
Everyone shared their lunch… That was the whole thing. They shared the food they were initially unwilling to share, and when everyone was full (including those who came with nothing) they had baskets of leftovers
when the far right says, “Who’s gonna pay for it?!”
It’s funny, the obvious answer is “rich people who have magnitudes more money”, but plenty of poor stupid people respond “BuT tHeY aLrEaDy PaY mOrE” as if someone with 100000x as much money as you should get off paying maybe pays 100 or 1000x when you’re paying 25% and they’re paying 5 or 10% of take home.
When they’re asking genuinely, I don’t mind giving a genuine reply. But when it becomes clear they’re doing the online equivalent of filibustering? “You, you specifically are going to pay for it, and I hope it makes you go bankrupt.”
Sorry, feeding you might make more money for the shareholders 2 years from now but not feeding you makes money for the shareholders today.
I won’t even be working here in 2 years, the second that bonus hits my bank account I’m taking the CEO role at a startup religion
This is heresy.
He would explain that the baker and fishermen had an inviolable right that their craftsmanship not be replicated without their permission.
Yeah. You wouldn’t download some kid’s lunch of bread and fish!
Republican Jesus.
There’s a conservative chud in these comments who apparently thinks this is exactly what Jesus taught.
Political satire is dead; it’s impossible to satirize conservatives because for any ridiculous joke anyone can come up with, there’ll be N + 1 conservatives out there going “yeah that’s exactly what I believe”
Interestingly enough, right after feeding about 15k people, these same people tried to make Jesus their king. I mean, free food right?
And the absolute Chad just went out and retreated, refusing to involve himself in politics as he was to be already king of another kingdom
Even more interesting than that, the next day, the same people were expecting to be fed again…he clearly understood people were associating with him for material gain. He does exhort them to work for their sustenance.
But it’s important to understand that at the time, Jesus was putting more focus on exhorting people to work on the pursuit of his father’s kingdom and excellent deeds, declaring himself the son of god, and himself (as the word of god) living bread to be fed on
At which point most of these people lost all interest, being shocked as, as always, they suffered of literal thinking, asking themselves in disgust, “how can we eat this man’s flesh?”. This was the people who literally wanted him as King the day before.
This was basically all it took for everyone except the 12 apostles to leave
Interesting take. There’s the standard conservative anti-welfare message, but also very old-fashioned anti-catholicism. I guess this is from a conservative US version of Protestantism. But which denomination exactly? Or is that standard fare for evangelicals these days?
I’m not sure I see the anti-catholicism?
It always comes down to transubstantiation versus consubstantiation.
-Lisa Simpson
I don’t think that the whole transubstantiation issue is big for Catholics, in practice. But they are supposed to believe that during mass, bread and wine literally turn into the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. Protestants have a slightly different take. Maybe it only becomes an issue in the context of the British domination of Ireland. I’m not sure, but at least in some Protestant/Anglican circles the Catholic belief was/is considered barbaric. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation#Anglicanism
Maybe it’s derived from 19th century Anglicanism, when there were poor houses and Famine Roads?
Side note: As a neutral person (ie atheist), I find the retelling of the “feeding of the multitude” rather dubious. The anti-welfare message isn’t there. It’s a common conservative talking point in the US, that government welfare makes people dependent. The thing about eating Jesus is from elsewhere. It doesn’t belong in that story. The author adapted these pieces from the bible and made inserted their own teachings.
It’s funny how little connection there is between scripture and actual teachings. For abortion, they bothered to change the text.
“If I give all these starving people free food nobody will want to work anymore!” —Supply Side Jesus
So I have never actually understood the name of this meme. Why “supply side”? What does that mean?
It’s from supply-side economics:
Supply-side economics is a macroeconomic theory postulating that economic growth can be most effectively fostered by lowering taxes, decreasing regulation, and allowing free trade.
Ahhh, thank you.
Supply and demand are two major parts of capitalist economic theory, Regan implimented economic relief for the supply side of the economy only. Corporations, owners, importers, and resource owners, like oil, gas, food, industries. While totally ignoring demand side, that’s the working class side of the economy, if there isn’t enough money in the demand side of the economy, it will eventually collapse. Which has happened several times, why are we still here and still doing this? Because were not a capitalist economy. We’re a state capitalist economy. Financial institutions fail? Government bail outs, stagnating wages hurting demand? Work tax credit, still not enough money in the market? Deregulate credit lenders, payroll still can’t cover basic living? SNAP program subsidized the cost of living, letting owners continue to stagnate wages while not paying enough to keep the middle class capable of participating in the market.
We’ve been doing this a long time.
The State now controls the economy, almost exclusively helping corporations and the very rich, with no strings attached.
Supply side only economics at work.
I’m non-religious, but I’m more in line with that Jesus wanted people to do than most self proclaimed Christians
On the issues of war, healthcare, wages, rights to bodily autonomy, rights to actually have control over the things you buy. I’m with Jesus on all that.
hells yea, atheists with Jesus !!
I will just point out that most of Christendom does have pretty strong workers protections/universal healthcare etc… (or at the very least has flirted with it in the past between corrupt governments: see Italy/Russia/Greece/Venuzula). America Is very much the odd-ball here.
Thomas Robert Malthus literally a cleric of Christianity who exposed these morals.
Probably the largest reason economics is completely fucked.
Come back OG Jesus, all is forgiven.
Conservatives would literally murder him if he were to come back. A brown-skinned wokist telling people to love each other would not be popular
I’m not sure I’d like the actual guy, either. The stories we have are the result of several decades of embellishment before eventually being written down. Some no doubt make him look better than the actual story, and others are just made up entirely.
From what we do know about him, he was a weird apocalyptic peasant preacher. He probably was executed for exactly what he was accused of before the Romans: trying to make himself the king of the Jews by leading an overthrow of the Romans. People like that aren’t healthy people to be around; see your modern apocalyptic cult leader for details.
Yeah I doubt the historical Jesus (or Jesuses – apparently there may have been more than one) was nearly as nice as the Bible makes him out to be.
