• snooggums@midwest.social
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    7 months ago

    Speaking of traditional values, I still want to know what Southern Pride is if it isn’t glorifying the Confederacy.

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      7 months ago

      So am a southerner, and have relocated, southern pride as in pride in the food, music, language/dialect, and culture all of which is heavily influenced by black people is very different than being one of the assholes flying a confederate flag and claiming the south will rise again.

      I should add that I grew up in the 90s and witnessed the rise of black culture to the American mainstream so i probably view my enjoyment of southern things differently than someone 20 years older

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        7 months ago

        i mean, i’m canadian. everybody loves that shit because that shit is good. And it comes from oppression by conservatism, conservatism writ large and taken as a global pattern (nobody gives a shit about american idiosyncrasies), although that certainly doesn’t mean its credit belongs to conservatism (just in case a redneck wanders in)

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          I think you and I are in agreement, I’m saying that as a southerner I’m proud of those things that everybody loves coming from where I was raised, the south has a lot of problems and I don’t deny them, that’s one of the reasons I left, but it’s a diverse place and it’s much more than the lost cause narrative

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        7 months ago

        What do you mean by culture though?

        In my experience it tends to loop back to confederate flags and worshipping the rebellion, but I’m hopeful you have something else in mind.

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          7 months ago

          Definitely not that, more swagger and smooth talking, chill and laid back, always spitting game. The best example I can give specifically is more or less the entire discography of Outkast and the culture it depicts.