I recently set up Sonarr and Radarr on my home server and I’m loving it.
However, I don’t get why you would ever use Lidarr. Why would you ever download music using torrents? You can use tools like spotdl and yt-dlp to download songs from YouTube music and Spotify, it’s faster and more reliable; I have had some issues finding torrents of music from less-known artists.
To me it seems like it would be much better to have a tool like Lidarr or have support in Jellyseerr to download music from common streaming services.
What are your views on this?
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Basically boils down to quality. The default options for pirated music are FLAC 44.1-96 kHz 16-24 bit, or MP3 320kbps.
Both are better than YouTube quality.
Yep, don’t need to get a headache from crappy 128bps mp3s.
Also because fuck this rent-music mentality.
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Because some music is not available on streaming platforms. Occasionally artists and labels decide to split their ways, and suddenly their older albums are gone. Over the years I started losing notable chunks of music I like from my playlists.
Not only that but the original mixes of albums often don’t get put on streaming platforms because of licensing bullshit or whatever.
And especially for rock and metal the newer remasters of popular albums tend to be pretty bad and overly compressed or have weird post EQ added.
Because fuck Lars Ulrich.
Hell, I wish my downloads took money directly from him. He sucks.
What’s the issue with him? Honest question, just want to know what’s up
Metallica spearheaded the movement against the music sharing platform Napster back in the day. Lars Ulrich in general was a big opponent of music piracy. (Although, apparently he has since chilled out a bit).
He’s also just not a good drummer.
I guess he’s not that bad, all things considered. Just don’t like the guy.
Thank you for explaining! I had no idea.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Convinced that napster was stealing all his moneys and pretty much cemented the idea that people pirating things means you’ve lost BILLIONS OF REVENUE as opposed to an indicator that you’ve got a supply chain or pricing problem.
I wasn’t even a metallica fan but i started downloading tracks in the days of yore just to delete them out of spite
I to this day still make it a point to download anything from them and I refuse to listen to it. If one of their songs comes on anything I’m streaming, I skip.
If i can’t buy it in bandcamp friday i’m pirating it.
Same thing here lol
Same thing here :)
FLAC files - better sound quality
I’ve also had issues with Lidarr not downloading anything - For example, I tried downloading music from the artist
NF- which I don’t think is a particularly niche artist - but Lidarr didn’t download anything. What indexers do you use to download music?I think you basically need a private tracker for lidarr. The arr suite is mostly targeted toward collecting media of a particular quality and will sit on its hands if what it finds doesn’t meet that standard
Music is also not well represented in the public indexers, so it’s not surprising it doesn’t always find what you’re looking for
Personally I don’t download music. I rip my CDs but I do know that some streaming services don’t offer as high quality as CDs hence my comment.
The right Deezer Downloaders have Flac tho
- quality
- organization of files
- proper metadata
- extras like photos/other images, lyrics, links, etc
- community (on various torrent sites, mainly)
- not being reliant on a company and centralized servers
- someone paid for the album… band made more from that one sale than how many streams of it? Lol 😐
- commands are crowding my CLI history. Lol
It depends what it is and maybe I’m not savvy enough but, I find it easier to use bittorrent still.
Some things are easier to find on YT or X streaming service so, I’d say multiple methods these days are necessary depending on what one is into.
To that end, I think we need to just reach out to bands and point them to a primer on uploading their music. Additionally, more people need to go to shows and start creating high quality torrents of smaller, more independant bands. As well as people creating torrents or torrent packs for the stuff that gets ripped from the other sources.
Because back when the only way to listen to new music was to buy it, then find out a load of it was absolute tripe, then not be able to take it back.
So fuck 'em. I download first, then if I like it I buy it. There’s quite a few CDs on my shelf that I first pirated. And no CDs that are full of lame filler shite.
You sort of asked two different questions there. Generally I don’t torrent music these days, though I have done in the past (Audio-4U, for example). I do use P2P methods like Soulseek for some stuff but predominately I rely on direct downloads through DoujinStyle.
In terms of why I pirate, it’s because I can’t afford to buy all my music and streaming services offer inferior quality, catalogue size and revenue to the artists. I’d rather manually curate my own offline collection and put the money I would spend on a streaming subscription directly towards an artist whose work I particularly liked whenever I can afford to do so.
Quality. YouTube audio leaves something to be desired… Spotify though… I never heard of that tool so thanks.
FYI SpotDL also downloads from YouTube, it just reads Spotify playlists.
You can use tools like spotdl and yt-dlp to download songs from YouTube music and Spotify
To get quality like this https://youtu.be/cX4KA-AFS9M ? Nah thanks.
That video is A ART
When I started driving and my friends or partners would be like “can I play a song I love on your nice sound system” and they pulled up YouTube (this woulda been like late 00s to mid 2010s) it LEGITIMATELY SOUNDED LIKE THAT TO ME.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/cX4KA-AFS9M
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Because I have a hoarding problem, and channeling it towards data hoarding prevents me from having all the conventional problems that come with hoarding.
but to answer your question, I’ve heard audiophiles complain about the highest possible quality you can get from a YouTube rip. so, I’m assuming that some of the torrents out there are higher quality than what you can get from youtube
Pretty much this. I like to DJ, mostly a hobbyist over paying gigs these days, and have plenty of tunes ripped from the tube. Now I have the fun task of trying to replace everything with higher quality versions. Shitty rips are fine enough for a house party on a humble audio system, but proper venues with subs and high fidelity audio setup make it obvious you ripped from YouTube.
In a perfect world I would love to buy what I use. Problem is I would need an insane budget to grab what I want. I listen to a lot of a music.
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I dowload my flacs via soulseekqt. sadly torrent is not cool for music anymore…
if the music is older, and not from the US, it’s often not on spotify. Versions matter too - even for some mainstream bands their B sides/acoustic/live versions just aren’t on spotify or youtube. Album metadata for spotify is garbage too - it just isn’t an adequate replacement for a record collection.
I do use a spotify subscription, but for me it’s a tool for playlist generation and music discovery.
Also audio quality, as others have mentioned.
I mostly pirate for others to leech. Always my slsk is getting upwards of 40 users and 30MB/s upload. It is harder and harder to get packs, or music in general from private and not trackers. Redacted does not have everything, I love the idea of big repository of music and share upwards of 50TB on slsk. Lots of Dj’s, new producers and podcast use this stuff :) I pay for youtube premium, but never rip it, I almost always buy music I like trough Bandcamp if it is available.
