• yrmp@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I can never tell if these memes are astroturfing by monied interests/russian bots pretending to be progressives, if populism leads to the same brainwashed takes as the right, or if progressives are actually this dumb.

    I consider myself a socialist and a progressive, and I understand that this was a case of defrauding electors and why the case was a felony. It’s not “paying hush money to a porn star”.

    I can’t imagine someone on the right saying this in earnest, as they’d never care about Native Americans or any minority. Only thing I can think is that it’s the right trying to sow discord on the left by feigning moral outrage, or the populist progressives on the left being unable to understand how the world works at all. I honestly can’t tell who is making these brain dead memes.

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      6 months ago

      It is BadEmpanada, who I mostly know from his videos debunking PragerU. He is a non-American who routinely criticizes America though, which gives people a cause to demonize him thoroughly.

      Though I think most recently I saw him clowning on Vaush for outing himself as a pedophile that is also into bestiality, which seems to have riled up the kind of people still holding onto Vaush as an example of ideal internet politics.

      So overall it seems like he has a decent trajectory calling out grifters.

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      6 months ago

      Instead of judging everything by whether it is a Russian bot consider if there is any merit to the argument instead.

      Also this guy lives in Argentina.

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        6 months ago

        I’m not saying the argument doesn’t have merit. I’m saying that this case wasn’t about “paying hush money to a porn star”. I really don’t care who he is if he can’t be nuanced. The world is not black and white. Bad Empanada is guilty of a straw man here and the result is that people who generally agree with the argument can’t tell if this is for or against Trump. Read a certain way it minimizes what Trump did. “Oh those other presidents did war crimes but THIS? This itty bitty little fraud is what gets a former president indicted?”