It’s literally not worth your time to talk to me. If you do, I’m just going to assume you’re either in the IDF or working out of that one Air Force Intelligence Base for the US. Literally no real normal person would ever engage with someone like Me if they don’t agree with me.

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    Literally no real normal person would ever engage with someone like Me if they don’t agree with me.

    That’s just absolutely not true. It’s completely normal, and even important, to engage with people that have a different opinon.

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      Back in my day we killed fascists, not politely ask them to stop being murderous clowns…

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        “Back in your day” you could afford a home while delivering newspapers and recycling glass soda bottles to pay utilities. While fascism hasn’t changed, how we prefer to try and handle situations have. Time will tell if it’s the right choice, though I do feel we are too lenient and restrained as a whole.

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          What does your point have to do with fighting against fascism and why are people so fucking pathetic that they vote down an obvious, “punch nazis” expression?

          This country is completely fucked, because “good” morons don’t understand that the bad people WANT to be bad… Grow the fuck up and realize virtue signaling online doesn’t make you a fighter against fascism.

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            I think because the majority know what should be done. Yet despite being connected to anyone with access to the Internet, that majority also feel all too often like individuals. It’s difficult to want to agree to more radical courses of action when you’re uncertain how many will stand with you. There isn’t much room to course correct in that equation.

            tdlr: People are angry and also scared.

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              Which is always how the Volk feel under a decayed capitalist society. And is what makes the transition to fascism easier to occur

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                Now SHOULD be different because we can talk. We can organize easier than ever. Information is literally ours for the taking, and the holding onto. What we lack as an entire unified desire is a unifying individual. We don’t have leaders, not really, and to truly stand together we need people who have the leadership and bold desire to pull us together. If I’m being completely honest, this is all that’s left to find. People have found their anger, have not lost hope, standing upon a powerful desire to have better lives.

                All we need is someone to say “follow me”. BUT it has to be the right person.

                I may be bold in saying this, though now in 2024 I honestly and truly believe Bernie was a few years too early, strange as that may sound.

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                  Now SHOULD be different because we can talk. We can organize easier than ever.

                  And yet we are in the middle of a loneliness epidemic wherein people live highly atomized lives without a physical community. Which benefits the ruling class as it ensure that the working class does not organize - Which makes the recent unionization movements all the more impressive

                  We don’t have leaders, not really, and to truly stand together we need people who have the leadership and bold desire to pull us together

                  The intelligence agencies identify and eliminate such figures before they can arise if they actually represent a challenge to our current order. And have done so since the Counterintelligence Program that permitted the deaths of Malcolm X, MLK, etc. For a more recent example, check out how many of the Ferguson riots leaders are no longer alive. “Cancelling” (aka, reputational assassination) is also a tactic that is easily used, as well as Lawfare (Law+warfare) through the legal system, wherein targets are charged with insignificant or unrelated crimes to ensure they do not challenge the regime. Such as Eugene Debs.

                  Clearly something needs to be done and we should not ever lose hope. But we should also be very clear-eyed regarding the scope and scale of this challenge. The oligarchs will only share power if they are required to. Which was true under the monarchy, and is true now.

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      Arguing with freakazoids over whether or not it’s right or wrong to murder 40+ civilians to kill 1 suspected terrorist is pointless imo, but you do you.

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        For the record, of course it’s appalling what happened there. And I find it terrible by any means.
        But, despite what the group in this context currently thinks, I generally do think it is important to talk with other people when they have different opinions. That’s just a big belief I have. Just by talking, Daryl Davis could get over 200 members to leave a Ku-Klux-Klan which resulted in its dissolution. If you don’t talk to people, they will just be with other likeminded people and aren’t able to get new information or change their mind.