• Kalkaline @leminal.space
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    6 months ago

    Gotta keep voting for progressives until it’s liberals vs progressives in the national election. Then we might start seeing some meaningful change.

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      6 months ago

      This all the way. Make it so the Republicans of today are never close to winning again and then you can actually foster some splits within the Democrats.

      As it sits today, the Republicans have such. Great shot at winning that the Democrats can’t post a super left-leaning candidate otherwise they’d get handily beaten.

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          6 months ago

          Meh. Define progressive.

          People, the regular mud sitting kind, would absolutely love universal healthcare, guaranteed pay, personal freedoms, and more. But for them it’s just a Quality of Life improvement they want. It’s not for society it’s for them. Phrase it like that and you have mass agreement.

          The people with actual power and influence and those that follow their every word. Yeah far less interested cause they already have those things for themselves and it might eat into their life they think to give it to others.

          People are selfish. Very few forward thinking social caring. But people will agree on a good thing, we just can’t get it past the people with different motives.

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          6 months ago

          Oh, it definitely isn’t. If the US was actually progressive, universal healthcare at a minimum would be in place, same with more workers’ rights, etc. Let’s just hope American doesn’t become full blown racist with a Trump victory.

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        6 months ago

        You are describing a one party state. Kind of optimistic to assume that if you manage to hand all of the power to one organization, with no real opposition, that it won’t be corrupted (more than it already is).

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        6 months ago

        That is by design, Gerrymandering will never let that happen. Republicans will Gerrymander votes for themselves and the dems will let them do it to keep things to the right. You can vote all you want, but the people in power will make sure your vote is worth less and less the further left the people vote.

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          6 months ago

          If the gerrymandering is done most efficiently, the gerrymandered side only wins by a few percent. So if the historically non-voters come vote for the underdogs, they can flip those districts.

          That’s why there was no red wave in 22, and why the fascists are trying as many other methods to disenfranchise voters they don’t want voting (no food or water in long lines created by reductions in polling places and their hours, purging voter rolls, mail in voting bans, etc).

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      6 months ago

      thats very optimistic considering you are now at conservatives vs fascists in the national election.