They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word “species” has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.
My point exactly. Which makes this post (and some of the comment) asserting that it’s certainly a single species quite confusing. Seems it’s quite far from certain.
I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn’t even consensus on Wikipedia.
In mycology one will hear references to ‘lumpers’ and ‘splitters’ taxonomically. That is, do we lump these specimens together, or do we split them into difference groupings. When we look at the genetics, it has been the case that we find that those critters that appear similar may not be those that are related by genes/ evolution. And of course by “we” I mean the larger scientific community, not me and the mouse in my pocket. Oh wait, that’s not a mouse it’s a shrew. ;-)
Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here
And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons … but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!
What do you mean by “same plant”? They are different species.
They are the same species by the scientific definition. The meaning of the word “species” has become diluted over time as it was adopted by more people and misused, just like all language.
Seems there there is very much a debate about it and they are either considered seperate species, subspecies or a single one.
There’s really no debate about it.
My point exactly. Which makes this post (and some of the comment) asserting that it’s certainly a single species quite confusing. Seems it’s quite far from certain.
No, they’re not. Industrial hemp is also Cannabis sativa.
Wikipedia: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis)
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Taxonomy is difficult, and we’re still figuring it all out.
I would, however, point out that the specific page on Cannabis sativa lists them as subspecies. So, it appears there isn’t even consensus on Wikipedia.
In mycology one will hear references to ‘lumpers’ and ‘splitters’ taxonomically. That is, do we lump these specimens together, or do we split them into difference groupings. When we look at the genetics, it has been the case that we find that those critters that appear similar may not be those that are related by genes/ evolution. And of course by “we” I mean the larger scientific community, not me and the mouse in my pocket. Oh wait, that’s not a mouse it’s a shrew. ;-)
My point exactly. That’s why I find it a bit strange that the post and some comments here act like it’s a certainty.
Standard middle school definition of species is applicable here. If they can breed and their offspring is fertile, they’re the same species.
QED, Spock is sterile.
And here I was thinking about looking into some of the papers for the actual reasons … but turns out those stupid scientists just wasted their time because they forgot about middle school. Fools!
I kind of thought the Spock thing would convey I wasn’t 100% serious in my reply to a weed shitpost.