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    7 months ago

    If you think society should regulate expressions of long lasting attraction, you’ve got issues.

    Lol that is what the comic is doing

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        7 months ago

        Do you have the time or desire to learn about social reproduction theory?

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          I have a feeling it has nothing to do with regulating expressions of long lasting attraction between partners, but feel free to make your case

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                Reproduction is understood as the maintenance and continuation of existing social relations.

                . In that application, it is used to explain the role of women in wider social and class structures, and their (often unrecognized) contribution to the capitalist economy via their (traditional) role within the household as both child-bearers and family caretakers, and by extension women’s role as providers of free labor that is necessary to produce and maintain current and future workers.

                Men wouldn’t obsess over women’s breasts if they weren’t taught to by society, simple as. Plenty of cultures didn’t have this phenomenon, and think that it is weird that people do that.

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                  Pretty sure both men and women like boobs. Cause they are awesome. It has nothing to do with social reproduction.

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                    I’m gonna start this with a statement. I don’t agree with most everything the other individual is saying (the one claiming it’s political and is getting downvoted, rightfully so).

                    I also totally agree boobs are awesome and both men and women (and everyone else in-between) like them. But why do we think they’re so awesome? Most likely because they’ve been sexualized in our society.

                    I still don’t think the op comic strip is political.

                    Edit: Ourtoothbrush or whatever, is the one I don’t agree with, as per my initial statement.

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                    Pretty sure men and women are often attracted to boobs in cultures that fetishize boobs. There are some that don’t. When you look at things from far enough back you start to notice that what you consider natural is not necessarily universal.

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                  How do you figure people feeling and expressing attraction for their spouse has anything to do with gender roles…?

                  And why do you care so much that it’s her chest specifically being admired? The comic’s message would still stand if it were her butt or hips. And it’d still have nothing to do with politics.

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                  Women have breasts because some prehistoric dudes decided they were good. It’s literally biological. No other animal (or not many) has massive tiddies like humans. They’re definitely the result of sexual selection.

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                    This is totally incorrect. Do you have any sort of sources for this? I’d love to see one.

                    Many cultures even today don’t “fetishize” breasts. If what you’re saying is correct, that shouldn’t be a thing.

                    I don’t know the exact evolutionary advantage of human breasts, but surely due to the production of milk that is supportive of the best growth for babies. That’s how natural selection works.

                    Also if your idea of “sexual selection” was correct, wouldn’t every woman have massive tits? All giraffes have long necks, don’t they?

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                    TIL sexual selection had nothing to do with social conditions, and cultures that do not fetishize breasts don’t exist. /s

                    Seriously think it through for like one second, christ. Also the sexual selection hypothesis isn’t proven lol