The Human Rights Campaign is launching a spending push in six key states to rally “equality voters” — and warns that many still need to be persuaded to vote for Biden.

And after crunching the numbers, the organization sees warning signs in the form of soft support for Biden in the 2024 electorate.

HRC estimates that this year there will be 75 million “equality voters” — who vote based on support for LGBTQ rights — up from 62 million in 2020 and 52 million in 2016. But the group says one-third of them aren’t a lock for Biden. In the six key swing states, hundreds of thousands are “at risk of not voting,” and another group of hundreds of thousands of voters are what HRC refers to as “double doubters” who will likely defect to a third party, according to data HRC shared with NBC News.

  • BReel@lemmy.one
    22·
    7 months ago

    I don’t like it, but in reality I have 2 choices.

    1. Someone who is supporting awful things around the world, but will (at least temporarily) protect myself and my community. or
    2. Someone who will continue supporting awful things around the world, and will without a doubt persecute and hunt me and my community.

    It’s a shit choice. But its an easy choice. One candidate is a very real threat to not just myself, but my friends, family, and community. The other is not.

    I’d love our magic 3rd option to show up and be viable, but they won’t. We all know this.

    • Moneo@lemmy.world
      15·
      7 months ago

      It’s absolutely bonkers to me that people think not voting for Biden will somehow help Palestinians.

      • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
        36·
        7 months ago

        Well, By telling Biden “it is okay, you will be voted no matter what” you encourage him to be his worst. The goal is to threaten and punish Biden if he does not uphold checks notes basic human rights, international rule of law and not being complicit in the worst crimes of humanity.

        The DNC laughes about you and they are happy to fuck you over once elected again. And with you i mean everyone who is not super rich, or white upper class liberal. Believing the DNC would stick it out for LGBT rights is laughable given how happy they are to murder other minorities.

        • Moneo@lemmy.world
          2·
          7 months ago

          Well, By telling Biden “it is okay, you will be voted no matter what” you encourage him to be his worst.

          I don’t disagree with this. The point is that Trump being elected will be much worse for non-whites and LGBT than Biden.

          Going into speculation, I don’t think not voting for Biden will make dems shift further left. I see so many comments talking about how Biden’s stance on Palestine might lose him the election but absolutely no evidence that shifting his stance would help him win. Leftists are a small minority and I see no evidence that Biden has anything to gain from appeasing the left. My guess would be that shifting left could lose dems the support of many “moderates” or whatever the fuck they call themselves.

          If you want people to agree with you then you need to convince them that sharing your point of view benefits them. I see absolutely no evidence that not voting for Biden will benefit anybody on the left, but I see plenty of evidence it will harm the left. Going on about how voting for Biden is bad is just straight up fucking obnoxious when you fail to follow it up with any logical alternative. “Sending Biden a message” is not a good argument when you fail to prove that he has anything to gain by listening.

          • SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world
            1·
            7 months ago

            I see no evidence that Biden has anything to gain from appeasing the left.

            I would argue that failing to realize how large of a voting bloc the left is was a large part of what got us Trump in the first place. Moderates weren’t enough to push Hillary through in 2016, and Dems made sure to send a strong “we don’t need or care about you” message to the left.

            If you want people to agree with you then you need to convince them that sharing your point of view benefits them.

            I fully agree with this, but here is the thing. The Dems aren’t arguing that their point of view benefits the Left. They are arguing Republicans will be worse. Which is true, but saying I have to pay you $20 so your asshole friend doesn’t beat me up and take my wallet isn’t a benefit to me. It’s extortion.

            I will be voting for Biden, being extorted is a less terrible option in the short run after all. But I won’t be surprised if the Dems “We are less awful” strategy doesn’t woo enough voters. And the Dems will have only themselves to blame. Because just like you said, if you want people to agree with you, you have to show them the benefit.

    • anticolonialist@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      14·
      7 months ago

      Democrats havent done a damn thing to protect our community, endless lip service about rights and protections while doing nothing causes more harm

      • BReel@lemmy.one
        1·
        7 months ago

        So the people doing nothing are causing more harm than the people actively hunting and persecuting me?

        I’d disagree. That’s like saying my neighbors who didn’t put out the fire in my house are just as bad as my other neighbor who started the fire in the first place.

        We have two choices.

        Democrats haven’t done a damn thing…

        • anticolonialist@lemmy.cafeEnglish
          11·
          7 months ago

          Except in your bad up scenario, neighbor 1 provided the matches to neighbor 2.

          YOU have 2 choices, neither of them is on list list. Theres a larger chance of you voting republican than me voting for either

          • BReel@lemmy.one
            1·
            7 months ago

            Dems did not supply the matches lol. Republicans showed up with a flame thrower.

            But whatever. There will be no winning you over, even with facts provided. Later boo