The Human Rights Campaign is launching a spending push in six key states to rally “equality voters” — and warns that many still need to be persuaded to vote for Biden.

And after crunching the numbers, the organization sees warning signs in the form of soft support for Biden in the 2024 electorate.

HRC estimates that this year there will be 75 million “equality voters” — who vote based on support for LGBTQ rights — up from 62 million in 2020 and 52 million in 2016. But the group says one-third of them aren’t a lock for Biden. In the six key swing states, hundreds of thousands are “at risk of not voting,” and another group of hundreds of thousands of voters are what HRC refers to as “double doubters” who will likely defect to a third party, according to data HRC shared with NBC News.

  • Moneo@lemmy.world
    2·
    7 months ago

    Well, By telling Biden “it is okay, you will be voted no matter what” you encourage him to be his worst.

    I don’t disagree with this. The point is that Trump being elected will be much worse for non-whites and LGBT than Biden.

    Going into speculation, I don’t think not voting for Biden will make dems shift further left. I see so many comments talking about how Biden’s stance on Palestine might lose him the election but absolutely no evidence that shifting his stance would help him win. Leftists are a small minority and I see no evidence that Biden has anything to gain from appeasing the left. My guess would be that shifting left could lose dems the support of many “moderates” or whatever the fuck they call themselves.

    If you want people to agree with you then you need to convince them that sharing your point of view benefits them. I see absolutely no evidence that not voting for Biden will benefit anybody on the left, but I see plenty of evidence it will harm the left. Going on about how voting for Biden is bad is just straight up fucking obnoxious when you fail to follow it up with any logical alternative. “Sending Biden a message” is not a good argument when you fail to prove that he has anything to gain by listening.

    • SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 months ago

      I see no evidence that Biden has anything to gain from appeasing the left.

      I would argue that failing to realize how large of a voting bloc the left is was a large part of what got us Trump in the first place. Moderates weren’t enough to push Hillary through in 2016, and Dems made sure to send a strong “we don’t need or care about you” message to the left.

      If you want people to agree with you then you need to convince them that sharing your point of view benefits them.

      I fully agree with this, but here is the thing. The Dems aren’t arguing that their point of view benefits the Left. They are arguing Republicans will be worse. Which is true, but saying I have to pay you $20 so your asshole friend doesn’t beat me up and take my wallet isn’t a benefit to me. It’s extortion.

      I will be voting for Biden, being extorted is a less terrible option in the short run after all. But I won’t be surprised if the Dems “We are less awful” strategy doesn’t woo enough voters. And the Dems will have only themselves to blame. Because just like you said, if you want people to agree with you, you have to show them the benefit.