• teamevil@lemmy.world
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    Most folks are fairly ignorant of their rights due to a combination of lack of schools educating us on rights along with the desperate struggle to keep a roof over our heads…which those taking our rights understand. We need to seriously encourage real journalism hold shitty police action accountable and demand that out rights are met.

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      Most folks are fairly ignorant of their rights due to a combination of lack of schools educating us on rights along with the desperate struggle to keep a roof over our heads

      spot on

      which those taking our rights understand have purposefully designed to be that way.

      We need to seriously encourage real journalism hold shitty police action accountable

      Never going to happen, since the mainstream media is also in service/under control of those taking our rights.

      demand that out rights are met

      Yes, By force. Because force is what we’re facing, and asking nicely (or writing exposés) is never going to free us from under it.

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        Never going to happen, since the mainstream media is also in service/under control of those taking our rights.

        Bingo, the mainstream media hasn’t been trustworthy for roughly 2 decades. It’s just canned propaganda brought to you from billionaires.

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        Well yeah I know…it sucks that real accountability in journalism is gone and Boeing can randomly benefit from whistle blowers dying randomly with no consequences…and I know it’s going to come down to something ugly, but I’d like to hope not …as much as I can’t stand what’s going on in this country, the folks I know whom politically I might vehemently disagree on the surface, when we get beyond the surface usually we all want the same things…(Like the ability and opportunities afforded to the generations before, raise and provide for a family (wether it’s biological or chosen family) and not have someone else telling you what you can and can’t do)

        All that being said, I’d wish we as a society would really realize there absolutely ARE two parties, just not the ones we think of…it’s the haves and the have nots and every single politician is on the Haves side…Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell have more in common with eachother than they will with any of us have nots…

        Sad part is we’re allowing them to use hate and fear to divide our resolve…we need to band together and force the government to acknowledge our demands and it begins on the local level and starts with a binding anonymous civilian review board on the police…You have to serve on it like a jury and all police complaints are reviewed and ruled on.

        Whilst I’m on this happy unicorn fart of a dream, Police Unions should not exist (you shouldn’t be able to actively engage in union busting and have a union represent you) and more so they should ONLY be involved in contract negotiations…not going out and making statements about unsolved crimes

        (like the police Union did in Houston a few years ago when the drug officer made up uninformant did a no knock raid and ended up killing a completely innocent couple who were returning fire at the police because they had no idea why people were breaking into their house in the middle of the night… It’s 100% on a dirty cops back but the police Union had no problem screaming about them having targets on their backs.)

        No more gypsy cops ( fired due to disciplinary action but the records don’t follow the rights violating officer) no more speakers that want to train cops they are engaging with the public and public=Enemy. Some goddamn oversight on the military hardware we give to police so they military has an excuse to buy new toys…

        Fuck man we need to call out every single police force and authority that stood by watching peaceful student protests to be attacked, only jumping in to attach the students when they defended themselves…

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          Or just abolish the police entirely. From their inception their sole reason to exist has been to protect the rich and their property, and to oppress the people in the name of the state.

          Otherwise, you’re spot on with the haves vs have-nots and keeping us divided, because it isn’t just money that there are haves and have nots but other privileges too, which those in charge have artificially created to divide us further in service of gaining and maintaining their money and the power it gives them.

          (on a side note, “gypsy” is a slur used against Roma and other Traveller people, and should really only be used if it is being reclaimed by one of them)

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            I meant no offense to the Roma people, it’s just the term that I have heard used to refer to police who are assholes, get fired and then get to do it all over again with a clean slate.on a new force. (Edit: No offense to any traveling folk either. Feel free to let me know what to refer to the trash police and I’ll edit.)

            Also check out the podcast Behind the Bastards about Cops… ultimately you’re correct but more specifically “cops” or Citizens in Patrol was a “polite” way of saying they were able mob of assholes dragging slaves (willing to bet it didn’t matter to them, slave or not) back to their captors. Great podcast

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              Yeah, a lot of people don’t realise where the word comes from (same for “gypped” which comes from being scammed by a “gypsy”), and use it for both negative and “positive” (more like cultural appropriation, like when a white hippy calls themselves that word for example). Being willing to learn and do better is what matters, so you’re good!

              Personally I call cop all sorts of other names - bastards, pigs, nonce (UK slang for paedophile), but any swear, or accurate descriptor can work - fuckers, arseholes, oppressors, class traitors, and so on lol

              I’m not big on podcasts, but I’ve heard a lot about that behind the bustards episode in particular, I might have to give it a listen (though I am aware of the history of the police/slave patrols from other, written, sources, but the more you look, the worse it gets).

              (Edit to add a couple of those sources I have bookmarked, in case anyone is interested: The Police Were Created to Control Working Class and Poor People, Not ‘Serve and Protect’ and Capitalism was created by the police power. Also bonus gif of cops getting grenade thrown back at them by a fucking legend I found in my folder lol)

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    can’t overstate this enough. fascism is already here and people don’t seem to be getting it.

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    It hasn’t clicked for most people that they’re going to have to do a “murder the bourgeois/fascists” soon.

    People have gotten too complacent and they’re scared. Big change is scary.

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    Protests usually don’t get shut down unless they are particularly disruptive, if they go on for days and if they significantly inconvenience people going about their daily lives. Usually white supremacist marches are cringey and eye rolling, but generally harmless.

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      white supremacist marches are cringey and eye rolling,

      but generally harmless.

      No.

      They’re either white supremacist, or harmless, you can’t have both, and the fact that you’re even trying is super fucking gross.

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        There’s a lot of people in the world with disgusting views, and most of them are irrelevant. White supremacists are irrelevant. They don’t actually do anything besides March around every now and then, and normal people give them side eye and move on with their daily lives.