• Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    The institute’s founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from H5N1-infected cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen.

    Looks like it’s going to be a fun flu season this year 🫠 Every day I feel more justified in my decision to relentlessly mask with an N95 every time I’m indoors in public.

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      didn’t cats already get the virus from drinking the raw milk? honestly at this point if only they wouldn’t end up infecting a bunch of other likely non-removed individuals, I’d be inclined to just let them kill themselves with this and pass on beleiving that they proved their point. More realistically, they will probably spread it and kill a bunch of other people that way then still act like they have uncovered some great fucking secret, while somehow being the only survivors of the incident.

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    These raw milk fools never learn. Raw milk has always been dangerous. Now even more dangerous. Avoid raw milk.

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        You say that like it’s a way to get infections from Campylobacter, E. coli, Listeria, Salmonella, Brucella, and Cryptosporidium

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          That’s just a bunch of big science words for “exotic”, doesn’t exotic milk sound delicious? I’ll drink my wild and untamed milk that is free from all the rules society uses to make it boring and safe. And since even I’m not sure if this is coming across sarcastic, /s. And for good measure, /poe’s.

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          Don’t forget Baccilus cereus and Clostridium perfringens.

          Although the abdominal cramps and extreme diarrhea might be considered a normal day for those morons.

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            That’s not the virus, that’s my lactose intolerance when I’m eating a liter of ice cream

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        Commenters in here fully on board with advocating against raw milk because they don’t drink it.

        As soon as you advocate against something which is the source of many of our zoonotic diseases they downvote because they do not want to stop eating animals.

        People who would downvote the above comment: we see you like you see raw milk drinkers.

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        Kinda, it’s regulated because it can be so unsafe and even then you are kinda risking a bad time drinking raw milk. There is a reason we pasturise it.

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          Well, that’s the point of regulations - to make food good and safe.

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            Yeah I understand but the regulations are basically to protect people from being exposed to it. So it’s still unsafe but because it’s so regulated you have to find sources for it and those sources have to prove they don’t have sick cows to sell you raw milk I assume a lot of not safe milk gets through so I would argue that it isn’t safe to drink raw milk ever no matter what unless you are a baby cow and even them it still might kill you… they banned it in Scotland since its dangerous and you can’t buy it in any markets anywhere in the uk

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              That logic can be applied to literally everything. You can’t just sell random shit and say it’s food. Not sure why you’re arguing. The point is that raw milk is safe, food in the US is not.

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    The California-based Raw Milk Institute called the warnings “clearly fearmongering.” The institute’s founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from H5N1-infected cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen.

    By all means, drink up, morons, get the hell out of our gene pool, we’ve got enough troubles without your Dimwit DNA.

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    You know I used to think that would be great for all of these idiots to catch and die from whatever plagues they damn well like. But then I remembered that there are children in the world, And then also immuno-compromised people. Innocent people don’t deserve to be the victims of mass stupidity, especially children. If you’re stupid enough to do something terminal or life ruining, fine, just make sure that it doesn’t impact anyone else. Go destroy yourself in private.

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    If we all have to endure another pandemic that will further worsen our overall health… we really do live in the dumbest timeline.

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      I think I may have long COVID or something… I got COVID in November, recovered, then caught a cold in January and have been sick since. I just want to be healthy. Why do the stupidest among us have to fuck everything up?

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        Good luck. Don’t catch covid again if you can help it. Repeated exposure makes it worse. Pretty sure that’s where I’m at. At least I’ve been up to date with vaccines or it could have been much worse, likely.

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      When someone catches it from drinking raw milk with the virus in it, it might affect other people too.

      What we really do not want to happen is for human-to-human transmission to start, and every time a human gets infected, it helps create a risk for a mutation that starts that going. We know that the virus is in the milk supply right now, so it’s not just some distant hypothetical.

      If you remember, we had a lot of criticism for China over the role that wet markets with live animals might have played in starting the jump to humans on COVID-19. I’d rather not turn right around and have us be responsible for creating a window for a new pandemic due to doing something similar.

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      Probably how the raw milk sinkers think of themselves too. Super-powered, misunderstood, fighting an oppressive government, actually the hero.

      The reality? Bit-character, backwater hicks.

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    Biden should tell everyone NOT to drink raw milk. Farmers will make tons of money and love him for it, and darwin will take over costing tRump votes. The end result will make for a better America.

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      At this point Biden could summon a genie to grant everyone in America three wishes and people would still blame him for not giving them six wishes.

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    It’s all milky fun and games with a side of creamy fat until someone gets a case of brucellosis.

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      I’m kinda ashamed of this, but I used to prefer the raw milk from a local dairy farm because it comes with all the fat and cream(you have to shake it before drinking) and it tasted soo freaking good. They vaccinate their cows and only have about 8 of them.
      However, I will not be buying that anymore and go back to buying pasteurized all the time. The taste isn’t worth risking h5n1. I know it’s a pretty stupid thing to do since other illnesses can happen from raw milk, but I guess it’s better late than never to stop doing that

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        Dude, you were taking a calculated risk before, and the calculations have changed. Good on you for adapting to this very real threat to our collective well-being.

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          Thanks for saying this, I hadn’t thought about it that way. I still feel foolish for taking any risk in the first place, but h5n1 is just messed up levels of scary.

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        Yeah you can totally get unhomogenized milk that is pasteurized. They sell one brand at my local grocery store. Look for some in your area.

        Edit: they would refer to it as cream top most likely.

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          Thank you! I didn’t know that was available as a product and will keep my eye out for it. Probably just as good too

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        As Melisdrawing made clear, never feel bad about using new information to make a better decision.

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          Thank you, I still feel a kinda dumb, but a little less so now. I appreciate the quote and will be saving it for use in the future

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        Milk is gross. You are an adult human not a baby cow. What a great time to break a weird habit.

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    Can we just skip to producing a vaccine for this now? If they’re that intent on giving it every possible chance to jump to humans, and we obviously can’t stop them, let’s at least try to contain it before we get Pandemic 2: Electric Boogaloo.

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      We have made H5N1 avian flu vaccines many times before. We have one developed as recently as 2020 that’s been approved by the FDA for use in humans, not sure how great it is against the current incarnation though. Flu is quite good at evading vaccines, hence the need for frequent updates.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1_vaccine

      The US government funds vaccine development for viruses that might become a problem at some point. There’s also work into expanding rna vaccine technology, which can allow for very quick updates as viruses change. We need way more work and funding on pandemic prep and surveillance. We’ve all seen how devestating a global pandemic can be. Even if the vast majority developed never end up needing use, one of them may save millions of lives.

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccine-makers-are-preparing-for-bird-flu/

      Anyways, if an H5N1 pandemic started tomorrow, there’s a vaccine that would probably be helpful already made. Would need to be scaled up massively in production of course though.