hot take?

Edit: got nothing against Ubuntu, it’s Linux after all and that’s what matters 🌻 Edit2: people took this very seriously for being a shower thought…

  • mako@lemmy.today
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    8 months ago

    Jesus Christ this thread is full of people who don’t realize they’re the judging hipster in the post.

    Ubuntu isn’t the entry level distro that you move on from once you’ve gotten your feet wet, and your not very subtle pats on your own backs for using something different aren’t earned.

    Does it do everything the user needs from it? If so, don’t tell them that they need to “graduate” to a “better” flavor.

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      8 months ago

      for real. my uncle has been programmer his whole life and he was always the most linux guy I’ve known. I have never seen him use any other os. and yet he uses ubuntu. his own words are thar he doesn’t care about all the bells and whistles that come trough distros like arch or gentoo. ubuntu works well enough for him and it’s what he is used to, so he uses that.

      using ubuntu defiently does not mean you’re a noob or non-techy linux user. personally I wouldn’t touch it again but the linux culture about arch being superior and others being for noobs is ridiculous

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        8 months ago

        This 1000%. Since basically High School I’ve been on Ubuntu for the machines I need to work, because at the end of the day it usually does. Some of the people I meet see that I use a Chromebook with the containers enabled and have similar reactions. “How can you use that it’s not even real Linux?”, as if it isn’t literally a Linux kernel. The Steam Deck is popular because you don’t need to know Linux to use it, and Ubuntu is popular because you don’t need to know a lot of Linux to use it.

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      8 months ago

      For real I started on Ubuntu and nearly a decade later I still would be on Ubuntu if it wasn’t for their migration to snaps with the proprietary back end.

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      8 months ago

      Ironically I’ve tried installing Ubuntu a couple of times in the past, but for whatever reason it didn’t work. I’m currently using Debian instead just because the install worked. No idea why, maybe my laptop is just weird.

      I used Arch for years because I wanted to learn more about how linux works and it was a good way to push myself. I think it worked because I am better at problem solving now - I even read the error messages lol

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      8 months ago

      All the linux makes me say “do what now?”

      I just want to change the settings on my fan. It’s been roughly 2 years.

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      8 months ago

      I ran Gentoo for about 3 years (and will likely return soon) and I reckon there are plenty of really advanced Ubuntu users who know more about how my system works than I do.

      Any mainstream general purpose distro can do mostly anything and can be used by power users. Some should ONLY be used by power users, but that doesn’t make them inherently better than a distro that both a newbie and a power user can understand and use.

      You know why I use Gentoo? Literally the bragging rights. I doubt I’m optimizing things THAT much with my fancy compiler flags.

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        this is so true. just because one can use more advanced systems doesn’t mean he’s smarter than all the more “basic” system users. especially in the linux world.

        all of the distros can pretty much do the same thing, some distros are just more focused on the ease of use.

    • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      I still prefer nerdy hipster elitists gatekeepers from greedy corps after all is said and done. The first is unfortunate flaw of human character, the second is a calculated machine. If this is the price to pay then so be it. Individuality often isn’t as nice on the surface as the common but the common often has hidden sinister motives under the comfy, smoothened out rug of user friendliness.

      Lonely nerds don’t have PR and marketing teams but also won’t stab you in the back for profit. Sometimes they can be huge assholes though.