• Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    Deeply unserious people.

    If you’re gonna be an ultra at least offer a proper critique. These lazy anticommunists don’t even inform themselves before flapping their gums.

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      8 months ago

      I wasted a fucking hour on this guy. I argued for a while about imperialism being the primary contradiction before I realized he thinks all modern economic modes and equally bad. Doesn’t help he’s a slow typer. lenin facepalm

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        8 months ago

        This guy needs to read works by Marxists, his analysis sucks and is conceding massive ground to bourgeois ideology.

        In order to truly understand this contradiction, the most explosive contradiction capitalism has engendered, the centers/peripheries polarization must be placed at the heart of the analysis and not at its margin.

        "But after a whole series of concessions, the forces of the Left and of socialism in the West have finally given up on giving the imperialist dimension of capitalist expansion the central place that it must occupy both in critical analysis and in the development of progressive strategies. In so doing, they have been won over to bourgeois ideology in its most essential aspects: Eurocentrism and economism."

        The very term imperialism has been placed under prohibition, having been judged to be unscientific. Considerable contortions are required to replace it with a more “objective” term like “international capital” or “transnational capital.” As if the world were fashioned purely by economic laws, expressions of the technical demands of the reproduction of capital. As if the state and politics, diplomacy and armies had disappeared from the scene! Imperialism is precisely an amalgamation of the requirements and laws for the reproduction of capital; the social, national, and international alliances that underlie them; and the political strategies employed by these alliances.

        It is therefore indispensable to center the analysis of the contemporary world on unequal development and imperialism. Then, and only then, does it become possible to devise a strategy for a transition beyond capitalism. The obstacle is disengaging oneself from the world system as it is in reality. This obstacle is even greater for the societies of the developed center than it is for those of the periphery. And therein lies the definitive implication of imperialism. The developed central societies, because both their social composition and the advantages they enjoy from access to the natural resources of the globe are based on imperialist surpluses, have difficulty seeing the need for an overall reorganization of the world. A popular, anti-imperialist alliance capable of reversing majority opinion is as a result more difficult to construct in the developed areas of the world. In the societies of the periphery, on the other hand, disengagement from the capitalist world system is the condition for a development of the forces of production sufficient to meet the needs and demands of the majority. This fundamental difference explains why all the breaches in the capitalist system have been made from the periphery of the system. The societies of the periphery, which are entering the period of “post-capitalism” through strategies that I prefer to qualify as popular and national rather than socialist, are constrained to tackle all of the difficulties that delinking implies.

        • Samir Amin, Eurocentrism, For a Truly Universal Culture
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          This is basically what I was trying to say. The reply I got was “you’re not a Marxist, you’re a nationalist. If you fight US imperialism “””other imperialisms””” will fill the gap.”

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            Funny how these guys living comfortable lives in western countries have discovered that the One True Form of Marxism just so happens to be one where they can continue to live their comfortable cushy life and do absolutely nothing to further socialists causes.

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            The counter point to that would be analysis on “sub-imperislist” countries and regional blocs, of which many Marxists, including Amin, have covered over the last 50 years. But I don’t think that they will be able to understand it if they can’t understand imperialism first. Because, well, most sub imperialist blocs tend to align themselves with Western interests in the bigger picture at some point or another, as the global capitalist imperialist system led by the triad of the United States, Western Europe and Japan is the dominant imperialist force in the world.