• BluesF@lemmy.world
      11·
      7 months ago

      Obviously there’s quite a difference between fucking a cow and artificially inseminating one… But IVF is consensual, I think everyone would have a problem if a doctor was forcibly inseminating women.

  • juliebean@lemm.ee
    53·
    7 months ago

    the headline seems to be so clickbait-y that it has diverted most of the commenters from actually reading the article lol

    • juliebean@lemm.ee
      29·
      7 months ago

      true, but as the article explains, in some places, the legal definition of bestiality does not require a penis to be involved, nor does it provide exceptions for artificial insemination of farm animals.

      the ‘bestiality problem’ is not (thankfully) that people are out there having sex with cows in droves, but that, in their relentless pursuit of profit, the meat/dairy industries are probably violating the law, and definitely violating the livestock, on a massive scale.

      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
        2·
        7 months ago

        But it seems obvious that that’s not what the law is trying to outlaw and since everyone gets that it doesn’t seem like a huge deal.

      • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
        4·
        7 months ago

        That’s not how artificial insemination is done. That’s how you deal with digestive or reproductive issues and is very similar to how it is done in human patients. In cows you can go in right up to your shoulder.

          • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
            5·
            7 months ago

            You said, “elbow”. That is incorrect. The palpating hands is used to open the vulva and guide the catheter past the urethra. It is inserted to the wrist. You can clearly see that in the photos in the publication you linked.

              • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
                11·
                7 months ago

                Do you know why no one takes you seriously? It’s because you lie and exaggerate and over dramatize in order to try to bully everyone into doing what you want. Extremists, ALL extremists, are the same. You all think that you’re somehow superior to the people you don’t agree with and that that superiority justifies anything that you do or say to them in order to bully them into compliance with your extremist beliefs. This pathological self-absolution is the hallmark of all extremists: vegan extremists, religious extremists, racial extremists, anti-choise extremists, anti-LGBTQ extremists…you’re all the same and everyone can see that.

                The thing that you don’t understand is that I (and the vast majority of people) don’t give the first fuck what a self-absolving extremist with a pathologically misguided sense of absolute moral supremacy thinks.

                You’re not here for a conversation. You’re here for ragesturbation. You people get off on rage. Sorry…I’m laughing at you, not raging.

                EDIT: An vegan extremist apologist takes a run at me down in this thread. They misquote, misrepresent, hurl childish insults, and use an ineffective series of strawman arguments. They’re not trying to have a conversation. They had no intention of having a conversation. They’re trying to bully me into being quiet. It didn’t work. Take time to read the thread. It’s good for a laugh.

                • birthday_attack@lemm.ee
                  5·
                  7 months ago

                  Not OP. I think it’s funny how you’re accusing them of “bullying” when their comments aren’t aggressive at all, just pointing out a practice they disagree with. But somehow your multi-paragraph, raging, sorry, uh… “laughing” comment filled with direct insults and patronizing dismissal, should NOT be considered “bullying.”

                  Like, I don’t buy into the idea that anyone can bully someone else in an anonymous Internet forum, outside of doxxing or repeated harassment. But looking at this, one of you is clearly much more aggressive and bothered than the other here.

    • umbrella
      10·
      7 months ago

      i doubt this is the worst thing. the meat industry goes loooow.

    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
      6·
      7 months ago

      bloodmouths

      That’s sounds metal as fuck.

      Instead of just regular eater I’m a fucking bloodmouth from now on hell yeah

    • ChillCapybara@discuss.tchncs.de
      1·
      7 months ago

      Bloodmouth huh? Now I like the sound of that. As I inhumanly tear into the animal carcass modern business and society has made available for me I’ll try to remember that. I am of course the one to blame here. I think the same when I buy plastic products that are ubiquitous and utterly unavoidable. It’s what the plastic industry wanted me to believe when they created their keep America beautiful campaign. Not the capitalists owner class fault. It’s me, the disgusting rabble. I similarly cry each time I order a product on Amazon. It’s my actions that cause the poor suffering driver to pee into a bottle while hiding from his van cam. I take full responsibility as I struggle vainly to make ends meet in America with my paltry salary despite my education and abilities. Forced to live in a world where all my choices are morally bankrupt because I must choose that which is available, least expensive, and convenient. If only I had the money the time the ability to be free enough. Then perhaps I wouldn’t be such a lowly disposable bloodmouth.

      • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        7 months ago

        How liberating it must be to have no choices, a mere puppet dragged along by your whims.

        The first vegan I know lived a few thousand years ago in a blind body racked by smallpox but do go on about your life is sooooooo impossibly hard you can’t behave with a modicum of decency.

  • BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net
    10·
    7 months ago

    Thanks for posting the article, it’s very long but worth the read.

    I wish i didn’t currently live at a family members’s house, so i could actually decide what i eat and get away from these disgusting practices.

    For others, please refrain from arguing about this like this is some spccer match, i don’t like what I’m seeing from the other comments, this should be taken seriously.

    The meat industrial requires inhumanity to prosper, just like any other corporation, bit this one deals with animals for said animals’ entire lives, this is systemized misery.

    If any vegan is reading this, i might do a post requesting this later, but any resources for reading more or for moving to a more sustainable and less cruel way of living would be helpful.

    • Rekorse@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      7 months ago

      It sorta sounds like a copout but being vegan on a day to day basis means checking what is in every little thing you eat or drink, I mean literally checking labels and searching ingredients. And then you have to apply this thought process to every other area animals are used:

      -Bath supplies -cleaning supplies -clothing/shoes -transportation …and so on.

      Best advice is to just pick whichever area you feel most knowledgeable or capable in, and become “vegan” in that category.

      I’m not even entirely vegan, although its mainly because I’m still learning a lot about all the different ways animals come into our lives without realizing it.

      P.s. almost forgot the parts vegans split on in some occasions, like with sugars or honey.

      • Swallowtail@beehaw.org
        3·
        7 months ago

        but being vegan on a day to day basis means checking what is in every little thing you eat or drink, I mean literally checking labels and searching ingredients

        That’s true in the sense that you have to do it when you encounter something new, but once you become familiar with products, you just know what is safe and what isn’t after a while. I wouldn’t say going to the grocery store is much more difficult for me than an omnivorous person because I’ve been vegan/vegetarian for about a decade now and I’ve just got a mental list of many products I know are appropriate for me to eat. Yes I do still have to check labels when I’m getting something new (and have to stay aware of when recipes get updated) but it’s not as arduous as people make it out to be, IMO.

        And that’s just buying processed food. If you’re cooking from scratch it’s pretty easy to know what’s going into your food and select plant-based protein sources like tofu, beans, seitan etc.

        In addition to your diet/lifestyle, I’d say you can be a force for good in the world in terms of animal welfare by just trying to consume less, have a smaller carbon footprint, and do what you can to support wildlife. Something I’m passionate about myself is converting my lawn to prairie in order to foster local wildlife. You could also volunteer your time/money towards supporting habitat restoration projects or something like that.

      • BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net
        1·
        7 months ago

        I knew on some level that being vegan would require micro-management of my life and routine. I guess what I’m really asking is, besides doing my best to consume less (meats and in general), what are the bigger steps an individual could take to avoid contributing to those industries?

  • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
    9·
    7 months ago

    I was thinking this must be something wild but it’s just artificial insemination. Bummer

  • CetaceanNeeded@lemmy.world
    3·
    7 months ago

    Thought this was about the bloke not far from where I live that was caught on a hidden camera placed by activists literally fucking pigs after hours at a pig farm.