Violence erupted at the University of California, Los Angeles after pro-Israeli counter-demonstrators attacked a pro-Palestinian campus encampment. Bubbling tensions on the campus boiled over following the alleged breach of a “buffer zone” between the rival groups.

  • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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    7 个月前

    “Counter-protesters”?

    This is an example of a news organization trying so hard to be neutral that they end up taking a side.

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      Fuck Granite! Fuck Cement! Fuck Wood! Fuck All Counters!

      All Counters Are Bad!

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      That’s the term. They were counter-protesting the pro-Palestinian protesters. Sorry, what’s the problem?

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        Charging sleeping people with baseball bats isn’t normally considered a form of protest. Masked attackers would be a more neutral description.

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          When we protested the Iraq War very similarly, someone hung a noose in the camp the first night.

          After that I was the one to stay up all night keeping watch.

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          If you had read past “counter-protesters”, it goes on to say, “…attack pro-Palestinian camp”

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            Yep, that was one of the sentences that showed how silly it is to describe attackers as protesters but there are plenty more.

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              They were there counter-protesting and then attacked the pro-palenstine protesters. Why do you object to an accurate description of the events?

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                It seems like you’re having a difficult time understanding this, maybe I can help. If another group of people showed up, and they had signs, and maybe bullhorns, and they started protesting the opposite of what the original people were protesting, they would be counter-protesting. Some heckling could even be involved.

                When they show up wearing masks and wielding baseball bats, they are not counter-protestors. They are violent criminals. They did not show up to protest. They showed up to insight violence.

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                  It seems like your having a difficult time understanding this

                  Im not, and your childish insults don’t make you right. There’s not dress code for protesters, and your No True Scotsman fallacy doesn’t win your argument any points. The Counter-protesters were counter-protesting, then they attacked the protesters. It’s a simple concept to grasp.

                  Just because it doesn’t tell the narrative you wish it to tell isn’t my fault. It’s just the facts as they happened, not an opinion piece.

                  Now go insult someone else for their ability to read.

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                Protestors: Less filling!

                Counter Protestors: Taste great!

                not

                Protestors: Stop funding genocide, my college!

                Counter Protestors: We’re going to beat you with bats while you sleep!

                you disingenuous, festering carbuncle.

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                  you disingenuous, festering carbuncle.

                  Name-calling when you can’t come up with an argument. Typical

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        “Fireworks and tear gas flew through the night sky as masked counter-protesters attempted to tear down barricades, and struck campers with sticks and bats.”

        That’s counter protesting in your world?

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          As I said in another comment:

          If you had read past “counter-protesters”, it goes on to say, “…attack pro-Palestinian camp”

          “Counter-protester” describes who they were not what they were doing. That’s what the word “attack” is for. If you read the article it contains even more details.

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            I think people are suggesting the “counter protesters” aren’t “protesting” anything, they’re just straight up a mob attacking kids.

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              I understand that. That’s why I explained what the words mean.