• Melllvar@startrek.website
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    7 months ago

    If social media apps exist to slurp up as much user info as possible, and they do, then it makes sense to be concerned about the government that they’re subject to.

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      Why is it okay for domestic companies to collect the same data and sell it to China, then?

      This shouldn’t just affect foreign companies if it’s about data collection. It should have been an actual privacy bill. US citizens’ privacy will be no better after this.

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        It’s not ok.

        But the fact is that China, North Korea, Iran, and Russia are adversaries of the United States, and the US government is justified in its concern.

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          They didn’t seem to care much when Cambridge Analytica happened, and that was a foreign adversary. So what’s different here?

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            The United Kingdom is not an adversary of the United States. In fact it’s one of our closest allies. But, if anything, that suggests this law isn’t enough, not that it’s too much.

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              I meant that the data they collected was breached by a foreign adversary, thought that was pretty clear but guess not.

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                And the fact that a foreign adversary obtained this information was very bad, agreed? Clearly, it makes sense to take steps to keep that kind of information out of adversarial hands.

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                  Yes, my point was this only affects one of them. It doesn’t fix the root of the problem, because that’s not the bill’s target.

                  In fact, if TikTok remains, and does get banned, it just makes it so they no longer have to listen to the US government for anything.

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                    The law affects social media apps based in North Korea, China, Iran, and Russia. These four countries are already restricted from participating in sensitive areas of the US economy, with forced sale being an option. The only really novel part of this law is applying such restrictions to software.

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              A foreign adversary was responsible for the theft of the data that Cambridge shouldn’t have had. That was what I meant.

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            With the sort of detailed personal profile a social media app has on you, they could target your specific beliefs, religious convictions, sexual preferences, political affiliation, fears, interests, desires, etc. to manipulate your opinion in their interests. Doing this on a population-wide scale is what social media platforms are all about (i.e. targeted advertising). It’s wise to be concerned about an adversary having such a tool at its disposal. And this is true for all countries, not just the US.