If you’re not aware they’re heros of Israel and were absorbed directly into the Israeli military and given medals for terrorist acts as Israel became a nation.
I mean yeah I knew about that, but literally all of Israel’s neighbors hated them, I wouldn’t say that’s being successful in gaining support from the broader international community, hasn’t the UN been condemning Israel for all of its actions against Palestine since 1948?
I was thinking more of the ANC and Mandela, who tried to avoid civilian deaths throughout the fight against Apartheid.
They didn’t have neighbors! They weren’t a fucking country they were an ethnic minority taking offensive action against Palestine to force the mandate to make a country for them. Sure the UN condemns it in the same way they condemn illegal settlements and settler’s killing of Palestinians, ie. In word only
You can avoid conflict to some extent but when they’re striking food gatherings, refugees and a statistically unlikely amount of “accidental” deaths of journalists and often their entire families the whole turn the other cheek thing just leaves you with two black eyes and an entitled abuser.
They didn’t have neighbors! They weren’t a fucking country they were an ethnic minority taking offensive action against Palestine to force the mandate to make a country for them.
They did have neighbors after they won the war in '48, that’s what I was referencing, iirc there wasn’t very much international support for either side pre-Israeli statehood, most of the weapons the Zionists used in '48 were smuggled from Czechoslovakia or stolen from the British for example.
Sure the UN condemns it in the same way they condemn illegal settlements and settler’s killing of Palestinians, ie. In word only
That’s really all the UN can do when Israel’s powerful international sponsors will veto anything more than that. My point is that a majority of nations on earth have condemned Israel, and that doesn’t feel like widespread international support to me.
the whole turn the other cheek thing just leaves you with two black eyes and an entitled abuser.
I’m not suggesting Palestinians should “turn the other cheek” I’m saying that killing civilians does nothing for their cause except give Zionists something to point to and say “See we were totally right, we have to keep displacing them because they’re violent and can’t be trusted with statehood”.
If Hamas only targeted the Israeli military and state, then there would be no massacres for the Zionists to point to.
I mean yeah I knew about that, but literally all of Israel’s neighbors hated them, I wouldn’t say that’s being successful in gaining support from the broader international community, hasn’t the UN been condemning Israel for all of its actions against Palestine since 1948?
I was thinking more of the ANC and Mandela, who tried to avoid civilian deaths throughout the fight against Apartheid.
They didn’t have neighbors! They weren’t a fucking country they were an ethnic minority taking offensive action against Palestine to force the mandate to make a country for them. Sure the UN condemns it in the same way they condemn illegal settlements and settler’s killing of Palestinians, ie. In word only
You can avoid conflict to some extent but when they’re striking food gatherings, refugees and a statistically unlikely amount of “accidental” deaths of journalists and often their entire families the whole turn the other cheek thing just leaves you with two black eyes and an entitled abuser.
They did have neighbors after they won the war in '48, that’s what I was referencing, iirc there wasn’t very much international support for either side pre-Israeli statehood, most of the weapons the Zionists used in '48 were smuggled from Czechoslovakia or stolen from the British for example.
That’s really all the UN can do when Israel’s powerful international sponsors will veto anything more than that. My point is that a majority of nations on earth have condemned Israel, and that doesn’t feel like widespread international support to me.
I’m not suggesting Palestinians should “turn the other cheek” I’m saying that killing civilians does nothing for their cause except give Zionists something to point to and say “See we were totally right, we have to keep displacing them because they’re violent and can’t be trusted with statehood”.
If Hamas only targeted the Israeli military and state, then there would be no massacres for the Zionists to point to.