• Chump [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    7 months ago

    I hate how Index Funds are treated as this cosmically new entity. They’re just Mutual Funds you can trade during regular hours. Get over it! (Also the Index they track are just The Market [for whatever thing they’re tracking]) Grinds my g-danged gears to ribbons !

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      7 months ago

      They are different, though moreso historically than currently.

      Historically, mutual funds were actively managed, trying to beat the market, which they 1) fail to do and 2) incur high fees; and ETFs were passively managed index funds which didn’t try to beat the market and have comparatively low fees. Nowadays though, there are index mutual funds and actively managed ETFs, so things are blurrier.

      There are differences in tax implications as well, though these days maybe it’s less cut & dry; I’m no expert: https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/investment-products/etf/etfs-tax-efficiency

      • Chump [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        7 months ago

        So, look, I’m being a bit hyperbolic here. But I think the opening of your provided source basically goes up the ghost: even as far as the IRS is concerned, they’re basically the same thing. And even then the edge cases are so edge that they’d get thrown out of a bdsm munch for being too horny.

        Yes, some mutual funds have tried to beat the ‘market’ (typically S&P500 or sometimes the Dow) but plenty of regular stocks try to beat the market and you don’t hear ‘stocks’ being lambasted in the same way the ETFs are

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          7 months ago

          It’s profiting off of your own exploitation all the way down, but at least with a low cost etf some fund manager isn’t getting quite as large a slice of your work