• Sorgan71@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The bolshivek revolution made it certain that any communist nation is a dictatorship. The menshiveks would have achieved better results.

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      7 months ago

      The Mensheviks wouldn’t have been much more different than German and French socialdemocrats who accepted capitalism. But there were other relevant left-leaning political forces during the Russian Revolution that were neither Bolsheviks nor Mensheviks - I wonder what happened with them?

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      7 months ago

      That’s the problem though. When you study revolutions you overwhelmingly find there is a group doing reforms in a civilized way after the previous government is removed. And they almost always get lined up against a wall by a power hungry asshole.

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        7 months ago

        You have to remember that your slow and patient reforms can drag their feet to the point it becomes indistinguishable from malice. That’s what happened to e.g. the “socialists” who allied with the Russian provisional government and kept supporting the war against the will of the people.

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          7 months ago

          Well that’s what the Bolsheviks claim at any rate. It’s always what the dictator claims.

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            7 months ago

            The masses supported the Bolsheviks in the summer and fall of 1917 because they were the most radically and consistently antiwar party, regardless of their other faults. It was the most urgent issue in politics at the time for reasons that should be obvious. This is a pretty widely accepted narrative even among right wing historians.

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              7 months ago

              I agree with that but it’s still just one issue that could have been solved with actual representation.

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      7 months ago

      Toussant would’ve been better for Haiti than Dessalines. But him being a tyrant doesnt make me not an abolitionist.