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    @Dee_Imaginarium @giallo I wish most Mastodon instances were planning to defederate from Meta by default but sadly that’s not the case. Meta reached out to the admins of some of the big instances and a whole bunch of them don’t plan to. One of the admins shared this — https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836

    Some admins are going for a “trust but verify” approach. These are the only instances which have agreed to defederate from the start —https://fedipact.online/

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      why does their conversation have to be “off the record” with an NDA when they are discussing a public federation? They will never get the idea of public social media because they can’t understand the point of anything except squeezing the last drop of revenue from their decaying monolith.

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      Ok I can get behind the “fedipact” as an idea but who the hell designed that website, nobody is gonna take it seriously if you’re greeted with bright pink background and floating hearts. Who’s leading the fedipact project anyway?

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        I haven’t seen a website that looks like that since 1996.

        It just needs a spinning “Under Construction” sign and it could go on Geocities.

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          It looks like a student/chatgpt created website. Not sortable in any way, no links to the source of the declaration, just a list of names and no proof anyone signed anything.

          The extremely small “why” contains an explanation of what the pact is, but it’s kinda cringe being written in lowercase and every second sentence having “lol” or “lmao” at the end of it. And then her personal donation links at the end? I thought this was supposed to be a community effort against meta, not a place for her to promote herself and herself only, at the very least put links to donation sites of the admins that sign the pact or the opencollective thing

          Like the idea is fine but ugh, seeing this just made me extremely pessimistic about how is this gonna end.

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            @Kaldo

            ‘no proof anyone signed anything’
            I don’t know exactly what kind of proof you expect.

            I agree that it could be more clearly explained. There was a fair bit of discussion on ‘Mastodon’ about it so some of that context might not be clear.

            Re the donation links. It is quite common for people who show up on the fediverse and put in some work to ask for donations.

            I mean it is a attempt to rally community to a cause but it was put together by one person off their own bat.

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              I don’t know exactly what kind of proof you expect.

              How about a link to a public toot of the administrator where they actually agree to this?

              It is quite common for people who show up on the fediverse and put in some work to ask for donations.

              On their personal site of course, I am not arguing that, but if this is supposed to a community effort and an “official document/rallying point” then it has no place here, it comes off as desperate and unprofessional. You don’t make an appeal to ethics and for everyone to come together and then use that space and community to ask for money just for yourself.

              I mean I hate it that I’m being so negative, I know it doesn’t matter in the large scale of things but I’m just shocked that this is how the fedipact is being organized. It comes off as extremely amateurish and unprofessional.

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        Jesus, it really is bad isn’t it. Pink is a bold choice for the background but it’s excusable. Floating animated hearts? No way. All lowercase typing in the “oath”? No way. This honestly is super embarassing.

        If you scroll to the bottom, it says to Created by Vanta which somehow manages to be even worse. It’s not even “cool in a playful way” which is what I have to assume they’re going for. It’s horrifically ugly, painful on the eyes, and practically illegible.

        This is a sweet spot for maximizing unreadability, ugliness, nausea-induction and unprofessional-ness.

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          I don’t know what you’re talking about. The text isn’t even cyan! And where is Comic Sans? I got all excited to see some Geocoties throwback, and I didn’t even get yellow or lime green ok a hot pink background.

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      I’ve seen all that too, and there’s a reason I’m not on any of those instances. The instances that want to federate can, the people who care will not be on those instances. It’s inevitable that they were coming to the fediverse, all we can do is defederate and protect our communities that we build.

      But whoever wants to join them can do so, that’s the beauty of the fediverse. We join whatever instance or platform provides us with what we want. Which for me, is a Meta-less experience.