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    Dude I’m left wing which is why I’m against racist shit like dei. I’m sorry but it was a terrible idea when implemented and it’s still terrible.

    What idiot thought they’d fix racism with more racism?

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      7 months ago

      I’m left wing let me parrot right wing talking points about how inclusion hurts white people!

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        It’s not a subtle or clever tactic and it doesn’t fool anyone these days but people still insist on LARPing/concern trolling in comment sections. It’s like a compulsion.

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        Those are great and noble ideals. it would be a real shame if a bunch of racists used it as a shield against criticism.

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          Yes, the true racists are the ones who invited the blacks (replace woth any group at your will) to the dinner and broke bread with them…

          Fuck off with that nonsense.

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      “As the most Lefty Left McLefterson who ever Lefted here’s some right wing talking points I heard on Tucker Carlson’s Twitter show”

      Lmao yeah okay pal 🙄

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        “I’m a black gay guy and I can personally say that Obama did nothing for me, my life only changed a little bit and it was for the worse. Everything is so much better under Trump though. I feel respected - which I never do when democrats are involved.”

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      So, we’re on the same page that racism is a problem and we should eradicate it.

      The part where we disagree is that it will be solved if we ignore it. DEI initiatives are a redress to things like systemic racism and other inequalities. Once we truly don’t have to force people to do it, it’ll be great.

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        Not exactly. I think we should act to alleviate inequality but we don’t need to resort to racism to do it.

        How about instead of race we use economic indicators to choose who to help? It’s a far more accurate indicator and easier to test for than holding up a color chart (family income, education, tax returns) and actually helps more people that need it than only helping (insert the race you want to preference here).

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          What exactly is racist about diversity, inclusion or equity?

          This is the big issue: we as leftists complain that liberals don’t listen to us, but when they actually adopt our language, we just accuse them of being racists.

          Many left wingers are on the left solely because they hate liberals, and once they age out of protesting, almost always move to the far right. Seeing that you consider equity to be racist, I would say it is highly likely you have already began the rightwing creep and just haven’t realized it yet.

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            Racism = treating differently based on race.

            Changing the colour of your clan robes from white to black doesn’t make you less of a racist.

            You’re falling into the trap so many do where they think their racism is the only good one and is right and justified. Spoiler, every racist thinks the same. Just treat people the same mate.

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              Wow, this is some “it’s illegal for both the rich and poor to sleep under a bridge” sort of brainless equality.

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              Please, tell me more about “my racism.” I’m genuinely curious what somebody who likely does nothing for their or anybody else’s community has to say about “my racism.”

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          Here it is again. We agree on the problem but not the solution. We have the same end goal. Unfortunately, racism still persists. Many of our institutions were founded on it and it’s impossible, under current laws, practices, etc to start ignoring it without negatively impacting marginalized communities immediately. It’s a process and we have to address the the consequences of past injustices while simultaneously working towards actual equality.

          I don’t think we are going to see eye to eye on this one but I hope you have a good day.

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      People here want to pretend like only conservatives would dislike DEI but they’re wrong.

      I want to live in a world where people think about the color of people’s skin the way they do hair or eye color - which is to say they don’t.

      I’m sorry but I will not treat you differently based on the color of your skin.

      These are the same people who were pushing “Latinx” meanwhile no one who is actually a part of that community knew what the fuck they were on about. Thankfully it seems to have died pretty quickly.