• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Right, would you like to outline the timeline of Venezuelan socialism and American sanctions for me?

    Fuck’s sake.

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      8 months ago

      Sure bro.

      Venezuela: Stops doing what America wants, sanctions. Keeps not doing what America wants, coups.

      Hope that clears things up.

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        8 months ago

        Thanks for demonstrating utter illiteracy in international affairs. Thinking is too hard, I guess; easier to treat it as a religion.

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          8 months ago

          Uh huh. Hey, why don’t you hop over to a South or Central American community and ask them what they think about it?

          You know, you’ve usually got pretty reasonable takes. I think some more, and non-American, perspectives on the matter might do you a lot of good.

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            8 months ago

            Good idea.

            You know, you’ve usually got pretty reasonable takes. I think some more, and non-American, perspectives on the matter might do you a lot of good.

            I majored in international history. I follow international politics closely. The assumption that American diabolism is the default position amongst non-Americans is nothing but fantasy. In some places, the US retains a good reputation - in others, a predominantly negative one - but the fantasies of American diabolists, where the US is always a negative influence and never does anything, even accidentally, correct, is not a majority opinion outside of a small circlejerk of online leftists.

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                8 months ago

                What the fuck does not asking for American invention have to do with US sanctions for blatantly undemocratic activity that’s been roundly condemned by democratic nations both in the region and abroad?

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                  8 months ago

                  Do you think sanctions on an already struggling nation, for whatever reason, aren’t intervention?

                  Why is that Venezuela deserves sanctions when China and Israel, two proven enemies of democracy themselves, do not?

                  I’m sure at has nothing to do with brown people having oil reserves in America’s backyard. Not at all 😜

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                    8 months ago

                    Do you think sanctions on an already struggling nation, for whatever reason, aren’t intervention?

                    Wait, so sanctions are intervention in your view? Are you willing to stand by that? Because if so, I have a long laundry list of questions to ask you about international affairs.

                    Why is that Venezuela deserves sanctions and China and Israel, two proven enemies of democracy, do not?

                    Israel definitely deserves it. China probably deserves it but is too economically intertwined for sanctions not to simply backfire - as the ‘trade war’ of the Trump administration showed.