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Good question! “Standard” In terms of characters refer to the 常用漢字 which are the -er- “basic” 2160ish (I will try to remember to update with the exact figure; it was expanded in the last 5-10 years) kanji that are the basis to be considered “literate”.
To look at it a bit different for Americans (which is the only basis I have; other counties even within English differ), one could think of reading at an X-grade level. Many publications can be around 5th-grade level (though this comes with its own can of worms).
In English, we have 26 letters of the alphabet. I guess we could call it 52 differentiation lower- and upper-case. We could also double that to 104 for cursive. If we’re feeling generous, we could add a couple of shorthand signs (such as an & that is more shorthand).
Now, for japanese, in addition to those 104ish, you now have to learn at least 2160ish Chinese characters (and, if you’re japanese, all the latin alphabet as described above, but this isn’t applicable to those of use whom are native English speakers looking to learn Japanese).
And, until here, we’re only talking about the squiggles used to represent sounds. After this, we actually get into things like vocabulary and grammar and registers ( think something like manners.
Edit: oh! And those 2160isj characters! Unlike Chinese or something, they can have multiple readings (pronunciations) based on whether they are alone, in a compound, a person’s name, etc. Some knaji have over 10 readings. Much like many languages, the most-used words and grammar patterns are the most irregular.
a lot of the characters and grammar are not in the standard set
Were you referring to some standardized grammar set here too? I’m aware of the 常用漢字. Trying to guess the proper readings of random stations in 東京都 on the Japanese map is a fun exercise, but of course it’s complicated by characters I don’t know, and the possibility it could be any reading, even 名乗り readings.
I can speak conversational Japanese, know a lot of IT jargon, and can somewhat read Japanese and it’s still very difficult at times.
I imagine from my own studies. Are you working in an IT-related field? Was there a specific reason you wanted to work in Japan?
What do you mean by “standard set”?
Good question! “Standard” In terms of characters refer to the 常用漢字 which are the -er- “basic” 2160ish (I will try to remember to update with the exact figure; it was expanded in the last 5-10 years) kanji that are the basis to be considered “literate”.
To look at it a bit different for Americans (which is the only basis I have; other counties even within English differ), one could think of reading at an X-grade level. Many publications can be around 5th-grade level (though this comes with its own can of worms).
In English, we have 26 letters of the alphabet. I guess we could call it 52 differentiation lower- and upper-case. We could also double that to 104 for cursive. If we’re feeling generous, we could add a couple of shorthand signs (such as an & that is more shorthand).
Now, for japanese, in addition to those 104ish, you now have to learn at least 2160ish Chinese characters (and, if you’re japanese, all the latin alphabet as described above, but this isn’t applicable to those of use whom are native English speakers looking to learn Japanese).
And, until here, we’re only talking about the squiggles used to represent sounds. After this, we actually get into things like vocabulary and grammar and registers ( think something like manners.
Edit: oh! And those 2160isj characters! Unlike Chinese or something, they can have multiple readings (pronunciations) based on whether they are alone, in a compound, a person’s name, etc. Some knaji have over 10 readings. Much like many languages, the most-used words and grammar patterns are the most irregular.
Were you referring to some standardized grammar set here too? I’m aware of the 常用漢字. Trying to guess the proper readings of random stations in 東京都 on the Japanese map is a fun exercise, but of course it’s complicated by characters I don’t know, and the possibility it could be any reading, even 名乗り readings.
I imagine from my own studies. Are you working in an IT-related field? Was there a specific reason you wanted to work in Japan?
一週間前東京からダラスに帰りました。楽しくて、よかったです。日本語を勉強していますが、コメントどうもありがとうございました。他の人を助けています。