There’s too much content to pay attention to even when you block all tankies and other extremists. My blocklist is around 550 users long and there’s no shortage of content - just a slightly better noise to signal ratio.
100% of existing users block unpleasant posters. New user joins. New user sees hateful/ignorant comments with zero contradictions in replies. New user assumes many existing users are hateful/ignorant, when in reality it’s a small muted minority. New user leaves never to return.
Someone should make an extension that cross references account names with ones on the various defederated instances, whenever there’s a comment like that, I check Hexbear for their username, and literally every single time I have so far they have an account there too
That particular guy is an OG first wave r/ChapoTrapHouse banning refugee (the reason it exists, its original name was Chapo.Chat), Hexbear account is 4 years old with over 3k comments
Yeah, I’m sorry to say that’s looking more and more like the case. Lemmygrad and Hexbear were the most obvious and have been either defederated or blocked by most, and it seems like the users have made their way to ML.
I was just about to look into what options I had for blocking all users from the ML instance automatically, and I’m sure others are considering the same.
For your edification, the people spouting pro-CCP propaganda like those in this post are called “tankies”.
ML is a lot better than Hexbear and Lemmygrad. There are certainly some tankies in there such as the user above but if you visit their communities its mostly just lefties.
I’d argue the .ml stance on the israeli Genocide on Gaza and non censorship of articles debunking Hasbara was a lot more correct than the .world one especially at the start of the Genocide. Even now only mainstream Western outlets are condoned no matter how well sourced articles are.
If the user above posted the same take on .ml he wouldn’t be showered in updoots either. There sure are some outlier users but .ml and Hexbear/Lemmygrad are completely incomparable.
That those comments have half as many downvotes as upvotes doesn’t inspire great confidence. My point stands - ML is much better than Hexbear and Lemmygrad - but that’s not a high point of comparison.
The comment chain is claiming that Russia would be more trigger happy than israel to start WW3 which is a pretty lib take even I wouldn’t agree with. It having downvotes is not strange, though I did not personally downvote them.
But the most important point is that they are not getting censored, banned. Which really dispels the illusion that it’s just a giant tankie fest over there.
The reason most people seem to catch bans from .ml is because they go full lib mode when they see something that conflicts with some WMD propaganda they’ve been consuming for the past 25 years and call anything to the left of them a tankie.
ML is more defined by anti imperialism but doesn’t magically condone it when China or Russia do the imperialism as well. You can find some actual tankies in there but they’re usually swimming in down votes. The average lib that finds out that America hasn’t exactly been the good guys for the past 50+ years just seems to think that everyone criticizing it is a tankie.
Lemmygrad and Hexbear have such an anti West boner that they are often willing to close their eyes and ignore the faults of parties. They are not really comparable.
The comment chain is claiming that Russia would be more trigger happy than israel to start WW3 which is a pretty lib take even I wouldn’t agree with. It having downvotes is not strange, though I did not personally downvote them.
‘A pretty lib take’
Fucking what
But the most important point is that they are not getting censored, banned. Which really dispels the illusion that it’s just a giant tankie fest over there.
… is that the only criteria for a tankie fest? Here I thought the criteria was being overrun with fucking tankies.
And in any case, the propensity of the ml admins to censor anything vaguely anti-China as ‘sinophobia’ is well-recorded.
You can find some actual tankies in there but they’re usually swimming in down votes.
That’s complete bull. Anytime I go over there on a pertinent issue one of the top comments is always some tankie or another getting upvotes because he used the popular buzzword of the day.
Oh wow a .ml account denying Chinese atrocities how rare oh my gosh.
I like when they speak up because then I can tag them “Certified Tankie™” on sync
The block button also works great.
I don’t like to miss out on the conversation. But keeping labels makes it easier to call out idiots
There’s too much content to pay attention to even when you block all tankies and other extremists. My blocklist is around 550 users long and there’s no shortage of content - just a slightly better noise to signal ratio.
One scenario that worries me:
100% of existing users block unpleasant posters. New user joins. New user sees hateful/ignorant comments with zero contradictions in replies. New user assumes many existing users are hateful/ignorant, when in reality it’s a small muted minority. New user leaves never to return.
Potential partial solution/community contribution:
Resilient users in excellent health (🧠) block no one, replying to lampoon jerks as necessary.
Oh I have posts from .ml and several others blocked on here. The comments I don’t mind
Someone should make an extension that cross references account names with ones on the various defederated instances, whenever there’s a comment like that, I check Hexbear for their username, and literally every single time I have so far they have an account there too
That particular guy is an OG first wave r/ChapoTrapHouse banning refugee (the reason it exists, its original name was Chapo.Chat), Hexbear account is 4 years old with over 3k comments
How do you tag them?
In sync for lemmy, go to a person’s profile, and scroll the options to the right until you see the tag option
Thank you.
I’m starting to feel like I made my account on the wrong instance if those people are the average
Yeah.
Yeah, I’m sorry to say that’s looking more and more like the case. Lemmygrad and Hexbear were the most obvious and have been either defederated or blocked by most, and it seems like the users have made their way to ML.
I was just about to look into what options I had for blocking all users from the ML instance automatically, and I’m sure others are considering the same.
For your edification, the people spouting pro-CCP propaganda like those in this post are called “tankies”.
ML is a lot better than Hexbear and Lemmygrad. There are certainly some tankies in there such as the user above but if you visit their communities its mostly just lefties.
On one hand, yes.
On the other hand, that’s a low bar.
I’d argue the .ml stance on the israeli Genocide on Gaza and non censorship of articles debunking Hasbara was a lot more correct than the .world one especially at the start of the Genocide. Even now only mainstream Western outlets are condoned no matter how well sourced articles are.
If the user above posted the same take on .ml he wouldn’t be showered in updoots either. There sure are some outlier users but .ml and Hexbear/Lemmygrad are completely incomparable.
I can go to .ml right now and see comments like these, just the most insane tankie takes!!:
That those comments have half as many downvotes as upvotes doesn’t inspire great confidence. My point stands - ML is much better than Hexbear and Lemmygrad - but that’s not a high point of comparison.
The comment chain is claiming that Russia would be more trigger happy than israel to start WW3 which is a pretty lib take even I wouldn’t agree with. It having downvotes is not strange, though I did not personally downvote them.
But the most important point is that they are not getting censored, banned. Which really dispels the illusion that it’s just a giant tankie fest over there.
The reason most people seem to catch bans from .ml is because they go full lib mode when they see something that conflicts with some WMD propaganda they’ve been consuming for the past 25 years and call anything to the left of them a tankie.
ML is more defined by anti imperialism but doesn’t magically condone it when China or Russia do the imperialism as well. You can find some actual tankies in there but they’re usually swimming in down votes. The average lib that finds out that America hasn’t exactly been the good guys for the past 50+ years just seems to think that everyone criticizing it is a tankie.
Lemmygrad and Hexbear have such an anti West boner that they are often willing to close their eyes and ignore the faults of parties. They are not really comparable.
‘A pretty lib take’
Fucking what
… is that the only criteria for a tankie fest? Here I thought the criteria was being overrun with fucking tankies.
And in any case, the propensity of the ml admins to censor anything vaguely anti-China as ‘sinophobia’ is well-recorded.
That’s complete bull. Anytime I go over there on a pertinent issue one of the top comments is always some tankie or another getting upvotes because he used the popular buzzword of the day.
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