• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    9 months ago

    You mean Israel went into negotiations making unreasonable demands? Like almost every other time?

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      9 months ago

      What are the demands of each side? Can we lay them out and compare? Or do we know already that Hamas demands are reasonable? Do we always have to take sides? I personally want what’s best for the Palestinian people so I want a ceasefire and return to negotiations. But this partisan flailing isn’t helping the cause. Unless of course we’re ok sacrificing more Palestinians? I don’t get it.

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        9 months ago

        Do sides have to be taken in a negotiation?

        I would say yes. That’s the whole point of a negotiation.

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          9 months ago

          Should we grant:

          • A. Both sides be reasonable?
          • B. Only Israel should be reasonable?
          • C. Only Hamas should be reasonable?
          • D. None of the above.

          I just don’t understand why you’re calling out only one party?

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              Problem I think is why they don’t have them now if they had them at some point.

              Unless they never had them to begin with; having people and now no longer having them points to killing them which, surprise, hurts negotiation.

              Who knows though, Israel might of taken them for innocent Palestinians and did it to themselves :(

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        9 months ago

        We can. Hamas has been very clear. End the blockade. Remove troops from West Bank. Recognize a Palestinian state. Allow Palestinian refugees to return. Release Palestinians being held without charge. (hostages but with a nicer veneer)

        Israel wants their people back.

        Those are the two positions.

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          9 months ago

          So from the “River to the sea” has been taken out of Hamas charter? What does their charter state as their key objective now?

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            9 months ago

            The 1969 borders. They still vote to resist Israel but they did actually change the charter in 2018.