ah maybe it was considered a feature when traffic was lower. yeah a toggle would be good, or shunting it off to an aside so it doesn’t shift the layout constantly
this whole platform is just over 4 years old, but in that time, it only had 5k-8k users… until 2-3 weeks ago. then it suddenly had 100k users. and it’s still growing. on July 1, when the 3rd-party apps shut off, the real flood will start, and it will keep coming and coming as reddit really turns to shit without reliable mods or mod tools. not to mention the LemmyAPI is only maintained by 2 full-time devs (who also admin lemmy.ml, btw) who probably haven’t slept in a month. I’ve dealt with them-- they’re very grumpy.
lemmy is a very immature platform that is suddenly the new reddit, which took 18 years to get where it is today, and users are expecting the world from it. it’s… a lot to live up to. not much development happened for a long time, and now they’re trying to play catch-up.
Yeah, but reddit didn’t start off where it is now. It’s got time to grow and I’m glad those guys are putting in the hours, though I hope it doesn’t take too much of a toll on them. They seem nice from what little I’ve seen of their posts.
I’ve thought about trying to contribute on the UI side but inferno is too much like React for my tastes.
oh, I remember reddit in the beginning. it was a lot like lemmy is now. different, but not far from this in terms of the level of functionality-- or lack thereof. a lot of people don’t remember just how basic reddit used to be and how far it’s come. and hen people flooded over from Digg, reddit was… 3 or 4? it think? can’t remember. but, yeah, Digg users were pretty demanding. and reddit was open-source then, too.
but if you think you can contribute, that would be cool. I’m sure they could use the help.
Oh yeah, current lemmy is very reminiscent of early reddit. Even before the API stuff I found myself thinking how much I missed the general feel of those early years. Back when most posts were links to an interesting webpage or article instead of a flood of images, gifs, and memes. you could still kind of approximate that old experience with subreddit filters and subscriptions but it wasn’t really the same.
im sure lemmy reaching that point is unavoidable if it truly takes off when the API goes dark, but I’m really enjoying the honeymoon period we got now.
I’ll see if there’s some low-hanging fruit in the issues but my experience with React and by extension Inferno is not great. I’ve deliberately avoided it because JSX just feels wrong to me. maybe I should just get over it though
well… I see it this way: we all thought reddit would turn into the new digg, but it didn’t. digg only lasted for, what? 6 years before the 4.0 meltdown/exodus? Reddit survived 18 goddamned years though scandal and meltdown after disaster and thrived because of what it evolved Into, because of its community. it took a knife to the back of it and a flamethrower to the mod teams of the biggest subs themselves to finally kill the fucker by driving everyone away.
this third iteration, lemmy is, once again structured differently, evolved to avoid the weaknesses of the previous systems. how it will grow, how communities will evolve, what it will ultimately become, and how long it will last is anyone’s guess. but I’m excited to see it and glad to be a part of it.
yeah it’s definitely full of potential. i’m pretty hopeful about its direction but I worry that there needs to be some major shift in order to keep from being just a new reddit. i suppose you could say federation is that shift but the (unfounded imo) confusion around that makes it seem like more of a burden sometimes.
anyway i really enjoyed the start and end of this chat. I really do have to go to bed though, so i’ll say goodnight again and actually mean it.
people will adjust to federation and what it means just like they adjust to what social aggregation was when people joined digg and when they adjusted to the paradigm of segmented communities when the moved to reddit. it’s the social evolution of independent online communities, and it’s fascinating to watch it grow organically.
ah maybe it was considered a feature when traffic was lower. yeah a toggle would be good, or shunting it off to an aside so it doesn’t shift the layout constantly
this whole platform is just over 4 years old, but in that time, it only had 5k-8k users… until 2-3 weeks ago. then it suddenly had 100k users. and it’s still growing. on July 1, when the 3rd-party apps shut off, the real flood will start, and it will keep coming and coming as reddit really turns to shit without reliable mods or mod tools. not to mention the LemmyAPI is only maintained by 2 full-time devs (who also admin lemmy.ml, btw) who probably haven’t slept in a month. I’ve dealt with them-- they’re very grumpy.
lemmy is a very immature platform that is suddenly the new reddit, which took 18 years to get where it is today, and users are expecting the world from it. it’s… a lot to live up to. not much development happened for a long time, and now they’re trying to play catch-up.
Yeah, but reddit didn’t start off where it is now. It’s got time to grow and I’m glad those guys are putting in the hours, though I hope it doesn’t take too much of a toll on them. They seem nice from what little I’ve seen of their posts.
I’ve thought about trying to contribute on the UI side but inferno is too much like React for my tastes.
oh, I remember reddit in the beginning. it was a lot like lemmy is now. different, but not far from this in terms of the level of functionality-- or lack thereof. a lot of people don’t remember just how basic reddit used to be and how far it’s come. and hen people flooded over from Digg, reddit was… 3 or 4? it think? can’t remember. but, yeah, Digg users were pretty demanding. and reddit was open-source then, too.
but if you think you can contribute, that would be cool. I’m sure they could use the help.
Oh yeah, current lemmy is very reminiscent of early reddit. Even before the API stuff I found myself thinking how much I missed the general feel of those early years. Back when most posts were links to an interesting webpage or article instead of a flood of images, gifs, and memes. you could still kind of approximate that old experience with subreddit filters and subscriptions but it wasn’t really the same.
im sure lemmy reaching that point is unavoidable if it truly takes off when the API goes dark, but I’m really enjoying the honeymoon period we got now.
I’ll see if there’s some low-hanging fruit in the issues but my experience with React and by extension Inferno is not great. I’ve deliberately avoided it because JSX just feels wrong to me. maybe I should just get over it though
well… I see it this way: we all thought reddit would turn into the new digg, but it didn’t. digg only lasted for, what? 6 years before the 4.0 meltdown/exodus? Reddit survived 18 goddamned years though scandal and meltdown after disaster and thrived because of what it evolved Into, because of its community. it took a knife to the back of it and a flamethrower to the mod teams of the biggest subs themselves to finally kill the fucker by driving everyone away.
this third iteration, lemmy is, once again structured differently, evolved to avoid the weaknesses of the previous systems. how it will grow, how communities will evolve, what it will ultimately become, and how long it will last is anyone’s guess. but I’m excited to see it and glad to be a part of it.
yeah it’s definitely full of potential. i’m pretty hopeful about its direction but I worry that there needs to be some major shift in order to keep from being just a new reddit. i suppose you could say federation is that shift but the (unfounded imo) confusion around that makes it seem like more of a burden sometimes.
anyway i really enjoyed the start and end of this chat. I really do have to go to bed though, so i’ll say goodnight again and actually mean it.
people will adjust to federation and what it means just like they adjust to what social aggregation was when people joined digg and when they adjusted to the paradigm of segmented communities when the moved to reddit. it’s the social evolution of independent online communities, and it’s fascinating to watch it grow organically.
I’m pleased this ended well. have a good night.