• Colombia has requested permission from the International Court of Justice to intervene in South Africa’s case against Israel for genocide in Gaza, aiming to protect Palestinian safety and existence.
  • The ICJ has ordered Israel to ensure timely food supplies to Gaza and previously instructed Israel to refrain from actions under the genocide convention and to prevent genocidal acts against Palestinians, which Israel denies, attributing its actions to targeting Hamas rather than civilians.
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      I would imagine they’d be seen as incredibly biased since they all hate the shit out of Israel and many of them aren’t exactly democratic.

      When you have South Africa, Ireland and now Colombia stepping up to the plate it brings more weight IMO.

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        Plus South Africa and Ireland have a special bond with Palestine due to their own past as victims of especially awful colonialist atrocities. They get what Gaza is going through better than most other countries that anyone in the West will listen to.

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      These are also all countries that have experiences with human rights abuses.

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      Saudi is a US alley.

      Egypt is under a dictatorship after the military removed the elected official. Egypt hasn’t been the same since France tricked them by pretending to be allies.

      Turkey is like two bad moves from being nuked by either US or Russia (Russia falling would seriously relieve a ton of pressure off Turkey and Syria).

      Libya still has no government.

      Iraq is run by rapist opioid lords set up by Bush II.

      Syria is occupied by Russia, Israel, a crappy dictator, and ISIS.

      I’m honestly not sure why Lebanon seems to be going bad.

      Saudi, US, and Israel have been doing Gaza tactics in Yemen for a long time. They still are the only country helping Palestine. Israel is actually running out of cars which is ironic as they blew up so many Palestinian cars about 12 months ago.

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    Biden’s spokespeople have assured me there is no genocide, so this is all quite odd

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    Is this the genocide case started by south Africa? Isn’t south Africa currently supporting Russia?

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      They don’t support Russia in any way that is conceivably comparable to how the US, UK, or Germany are supporting Israel. There is no equivalency.

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      It has nothing to do with Russia. It’s a formal process started by South Africa (who have a long-standing interest in Palestinian human rights because of Apartheid). They have so far been formally joined by Nicaragua and now Colombia.

      A bunch of other countries have expressed support and may join at a future date, including Ireland and the African Union.

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        Every second we spent talking about Palestine is time we aren’t talking about Russia. Do the maths and u try pretebd u care about saving the maximum number of human lives possible and u will find that Palestine means nothing compared to the Russian threat.

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          Agree. That’s why Israelis should cease fire immediately, dismantle the occupation and apartheid, recognize Palestine and pay reparations. So we can focus on what’s actually dangerous to world peace.

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            Let’s focus on the small little distraction fish while the big fish is getting away Scott free.

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                War crimes maybe genocide nope. Genocide requires intention the soldier civilian ratio is almost identical to that of comparable heigh density warfare.

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      Yes they do and Russia is happier than ever. The more that people talk about Israel/Gaza, the less they talk about the Russian strategy in Ukraine being mass murder, rape and torture of civilians.

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        Wow, those are some serious mental gymnastics, if you think people are only upset about a literal genocide as some sort of distraction.

        Still, if that’s what you and @muntedcrocodile genuinely believe, I’d expect you both would be posting articles on the Russian invasion of Ukraine and drawing the kinds of attention you want for that issue.

        But when I look at your profiles, neither of you appear to be doing that.

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          I haven’t posted a single thing for anything on this account go find my .world account and u can see all the Russian shills I argue with.

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            Okay I went and had a look at it, you’re still not posting any articles. You need to contribute more content on Ukraine if you want people to talk about that content.

            The threads part of the fediverse is small, it doesn’t get the paid political astroturfer shills and bots that reddit gets. Most people on here are real people holding real opinions.

            You’re not going to win more attention for Ukraine by telling people like me that we are somehow pro-Russian just for caring about a genocide.

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              So endless arguing with people who are pro Russia and up voting most posts I see pales in comparison to posting about it. Would you be satisfied if I wrote a bot to spam the fediverse?

              I’m not saying ur pro Russia I’m simply saying that Palestine is a distraction by every metric and of a magnitude insignificant to that of russia.

              Did u know that the civilian solder death ration in Palestine is almost identical to all city based warfare. Is it a war crime probably but then again there are hundreds of those in every war, is it a genocide no.

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                Did u know that the civilian solder death ration in Palestine is almost identical to all city based warfare.

                I know for a fact that’s completely false. The civilian death toll in Gaza is much higher than in comparable conflicts. You’re clearly regurgitating fake facts from Israelis or something.

                In fact the Gaza death toll in 5 months was 1.5% of the population (hald of whom are children). For comparison in 2 years the Bosnian Genocide death toll was 3% of the population.

                Look I was sympathetic to you wanting people to talk more about Ukraine but trying to derail other conversations and denying a genocide is not cool.

                I’m interested in human rights of all kinds and I’m going to talk about all of them as much as I want.