Why does lemmy.world, the largest instance, not simply eat the other instances?
Then it would just be Reddit all over again.
is there a !woosh for the replies to your comment?
So we end up with one instance having to serve millions of users… for free… Hmm yes that’s going to work.
People on Lemmy are not going to like it but either Lemmy takes off and people will have to find ways to fund their instances or Lemmy dies.
We’re in a nice period right now where kind people are able to run instances on donations or from their own pocket. But it’s not going to last.
I don’t think a Wikipedia-style donation system would be bad. It’s better than ads.
I just hope they don’t do what YouTube does and interrupt the most important and engaging parts of videos to show ads in the most jarring manner possible. …though it would help if creators helped design their content for ads to have a place to go like how TV used to do.
I don’t really see how this relates to my comment. The equivalent would be for Lemmy to insert a funding message in the middle of someone’s post… What seems likely to me is a double wide post at the top of the page with a donation ask or a plan to give users who donate some extra flair or something.
Also, just use an ad blocker on YouTube or RevancedManager.
Let’s have a mass organized bake sale. We’ll call the lemon squares “Lemmy Squares”. People will love it.
Lemmy Squares sounds adorable. We need a recipe for this.
I’m sure how the ecosystem of Lemmy will play out is that there are a handful, maybe 6 or 7, main instances that require funding and are simply massive with teams committed to them. Then you have the niche medium sized instances that are known for a particular community or two, such as an instance that is well known for its great vegetarian community or whatever. Then you’ll have tiny instances that are used by irl friend groups, or for simply tech savvy people that want a home base instance that they can control.
We’re already sort of set up like this, but less organized and smaller overall. Many instances have duplicates of the same communities right now which I think will slowly fade away as future updates make it easier to visit/search other instances.
I’m expecting the location specific instances to split off though (shout out to my squad fams at aussie.zone) so that they don’t get lost in the mix of the major general communities.
Oh, true. That kind of fits into the idea of mid-sized niche communities, but definitely locations will become a big thing.
Centralization is bad
I’d upvote this comment twice if I could. :D
twice
you can upvote twice
I try to avoid eating sh.it, but you do you.
I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast!
You eat spez for breakfast?
This this originate from Friends or did they reference some other movie thingy?
Pretty sure it’s from Futurama.
Nope, that was a Futurama original.
We wouldn’t want beehaw or lemmygrad.
99.5% uptime is very impressive for a community that is experiencing such explosive growth.
But… is that even a good thing? I mean, the point of the fediverse is to distribute the load across instances.
The point is that everyone CAN start an instance and become bigger. It’s the users that decide.
I like this way of putting it. It’s like that post that was around a few days ago discussing lemmy as being “CEO-proof”.
It’s not really I guess, but if an instance got big and started being unfriendly/unreasonable to users they could just go to another instance and still be part of the federation.
The upside is join-lemmy.org always puts the smaller but growing instances at the top to somewhat distribute the load for new users. Also there are new general purpose instances popping up, I quite like it and as long as there is no drama you can access most of the Fediverse from almost any instance.
If it gets too much they can just stop letting people join, can’t they? I think for the beginning a little bit of centralizing will make stuff easier. For the long run it might be less desirable.
Removed by mod
Lol just saw someone complain about bots here and thought to myself that i would never seen one.
I did read that @Ruud said in a post that Lemme.world can handle 1 million users as of right now.
He hopes that other instances get more traction so the crowds are distributed.
Go daddy
obligatory it’s inevitable
it’s impossible for me to see this image without picturing that dog’s face in the dust storm
edit: for the uninformed
Strange, the spoiler doesn’t work for me. I just see “::: spoiler” then the image.
Me too. In Jerboa app.
Woah how the hell did you do that arrow
Just put an image in a spoiler! You can hit the little
icon under my post to check out the source and see exactly how I did it.Woah
But now how did you put the paper icon in your previous message
Funny you ask, it’s actually really cool how it just worked.
I used ShareX to take a screenshot of it, which was then saved to my clipboard (but you can use any screenshotting tool that saves to your clipboard, such as the built in Windows snip tool. I just love ShareX). Then I CTRL+ V’d it in the middle of the comment I was making and it just worked - auto uploaded with the proper syntax and everything. I was kind of shocked tbh.
It’s a spoiler, you can view source of the message
oh shit, i just assumed it was there and my brain saw it until i read your comment lmao
I am happy to contribute! I think it’s time for me to move on from Reddit. I am excited to help this platform grow and become something great - I just need to become less of a lurker.
Former lurkers unite!
Was a reddit lurker for years and became a massive contributor.
I am looking forward to continuing thag momentum. Heh.
That’s because I brought snacks, who doesn’t like the most finger friendly food?
Everytime I see you post a comment it is a painful reminder that Bugles are no longer sold in my country.
Overthrow that removed stat
Biggest of the trueths
Damn it, I specifically joined this one because it was less popular.
Oh well lol
@Olgratin_Magmatoe I joined kbin.social for the same reason, yet…
Me too! Damn kids, get off our lawn!
The future is here, old man.
Unfortunately I don’t have much faith in this social network until the bot issue is addressed. There is a huge contingent of spambots just waiting for their moments here.
Spam bots or spam servers? Everyone is saying regulate signups for servers but anyone can spin up a Lemmy server and spam with thousands of accounts until they are defedarated. Then 5 minutes later do it again with a new server. It’s not hard to setup a Lemmy server.
I actually think this is a non-issue , sure it will be a pain for a while but the decentralized model will easily adapt to this IMO. Its not like reddit was immune from bots eh.
Yeah, a nice feature of federation is that real communities can adjust their sign-up processes to minimize bot sign-ups, and while determined botfarms can spin up their own servers, that leads to pretty much the least controversial use case for admins to block another server.
Mastodon’s run into similar issues in the past with both bots and scrapers and typically no one has any issue with admins there defederating and entirely blocking those servers.
Yeah, malicious instances can always be defederated and cleaned from the caches.
Until they startblockingg new servers that are harmless
Which is why it’s great that the bottom of every single page, on every single lemmy instance, there’s a button to take you to the modlog. It shows what servers have been defederated and when. So if the person running your instance is being too heavy-handed with it, you can take your account and move to a different instance.
So, it’s still a bit of a non-issue.
The federation could be some sort of “democracy” - meaning that new servers should have to apply to join, and the choice would be up to all the other server owners. Otherwise spam servers will become a great issue. This is something that could be implemented later on, if done now it may slow down the growing curve.
In other words, I suggest the creation of a sub-federation that has this moderation system, the unmoderated wild would continue to exist. This would potentially create other issues tho, and it’s something that needs a lot of thought put into.
Maybe it would be better to implement features in lemmy that detect suspicious servers and automatically blacklists them. Maybe creating sub-federations would mess up even more the ecosystem.
But the bots most likely exist in huge amounts here and in other consolidated servers too and IMO thats the biggest problem. Reddit has a shitton of features designed to mitigate the bot issue. It’s one of the hardests things to solve in current internet.
“democracy” - meaning that new servers should have to apply to join
You mean a federation?
came from reddit. lemmy principles seem to align with me open for everyone and communities run their own instance if required
As far as I can tell from here, kbin.social has about as much people on it.
Can I join kbin.social with Lemmy clients or do I need a separate app?
Might have to test that one out yourself. Ofcourse you can subscribe to kbin.social communities from your lemmy.world instance but if you can actually add them that’s another question. Let me know :P
Adding doesn’t work, at least not in jerboa.
That’s cool the content has been great so far too!
Now that’s only a little sus
robots need community too! /s
WE NEED OUR INSTANCE ALSO WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING IT MAKES ME *scared.exe*
For some reason, when I tried to sign up for another instance, it wouldn’t send the confirmation emal or load when I tried to send it. I guess this is the only working instance that is easy to get to.
For me, it’s because the password I entered didn’t meet the minimum requirements. The instance signup page had some kind of issue with actually letting me know that was the problem, it just gave me the spinning pinwheel forever. I refreshed and tried changing the password to something more complex and it worked instantly
the little engine that could
I got bombarded by ads for this recently: is that the Jack in the Box clown? Or just a generic one?
It’s a generic clown. The Little Engine That Could is a classic children’s novel.
