• shanghaibebop@beehaw.org
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    2 years ago

    How does one even plan for contingencies? 96-hour life support, but can specialized rescue subs get there in time?

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      2 years ago

      I feel like a proper contingency in this scenario would be some sort of “instant death” system. Knowing you’re going to die, but waiting 96 hours for it to happen sounds terrible.

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        I get where you’re coming from but this sounds like an insanely bad idea. Perhaps I’d agree with you if there was something like cyanide pills people could opt to take, but even then I’m hesitant. There should be no way for one person (or some subset of people) to decide for everyone that now is the time to die; if someone wants to be in their head and push the limit and die at the last minute, that’s their call and theirs alone. Also, if there is some miraculous rescue but someone has pulled the “instant death” switch, they’ve effectively murdered the rest of the people.

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      I’ve been toying around with some design concepts for a DIY submarine for like a decade now. The first thing I thought about, right after “how do I control it going up/down” was “what do I do when that system fails, and I need to ascend in an emergency?” My thought was to have some scuba tanks attached to deployable salvage lift bags, so even if my ballasts were completely screwed, I could still ascend.

      If there’s not something analogous to that on board the Titan, I’d be shocked at their stupidity; It seems incredibly foolhardy to intentionally go somewhere that no rescue vehicle can recover you, without secondary and tertiary systems in place to rescue yourself.

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        I’ve always been fascinated by submarines. I’ve wanted to make a remote control one with fpv but radio signals don’t penetrate water very well underwater. If I have to have it tethered to a signal wire it’s just “meh”.

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        From what I read it has emergency weights it can jettison to surface (in theory) but if something ruptured and they’re dealing with water somewhere it shouldn’t be, or if they’re stuck inside the titanic, that’s not going to be much help. Plus even if they did surface, they’re still sealed inside and need outside workers to open it.

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        this concept is indeed unnecessary if you can’t even open your submarine yourself in the first place, another article says the bolts outside need to be oppened by a crew on the support ship

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          It could be mounted externally, separate from other systems, and it would be fairly trivial to implement a strictly mechanical means of activating it from inside the vessel. All that would be needed is to open the valve on the external pressure vessel.

          If you’re referring to getting out once you’re on the surface…hell of a lot easier for rescue crews to find you and do that if you’ve got a huge orange inflatable holding you at the surface, rather than however many thousands of feet underwater.

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            True. But I meant if all is only controlled from the inside, then what do you do if again that fails, seems like the same problem

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    True Anon taught me to never, ever get into small passenger aircraft. Guess a new vehicle get added to that li-

    Tour firm OceanGate, which runs $250,000-a-seat expeditions to the wreck

    Yeah ok, never in my lifetime would I even het a chance lmao

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    Tour firm OceanGate, which runs $250,000-a-seat expeditions to the wreck,

    fucking mind-boggling

  • Freeman@lemmy.pub
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    They may as well be on the moon.

    Curious if they are connected via a tether of some type.

    Either way, that’s not good and really sad.

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      There’s no way they wouldn’t be able to deploy a bouy with a gps tied to the sub that floats to the surface, or something similar. Like your trapped in a metal can underwater you better have several contingency plans.

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    Would be nice as journalist to be insistent on inquiring the duration of the dive so far.

    They write it’s missing – but it is obvious where it is.

    They write contact was lost, but it is unknown when. This seems to be the whole point of such a news. Was contact lost 4 hours ago or 4 days ago? Contact lost 4h ago would probably be all fine, as they mention the dive tour takes around 8 hours. 4 days ago would mean they are all dead, as oxygen lasts that long according to the article.

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        And it left on Sunday around 6am to start the 96 hr timer. Best case they lost power, dropped their load, and floated to the surface and are just bobbing around somewhere in the ocean.

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      They have a toilet behind a curtain. Imagine trying to hold poop for 3+ days… Imagine being the first one that poops and the odour… My eyes are stinging thinking about it…

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    There is only one billionaire aboard, seem like a waste of space.

    • caffinz
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      There are 2640 2639 billionaires in the world. It may not be much when you think about it, but it’s a great start!