Voters want change, but still remain unsatisfied with their options

  • Maeve@kbin.social
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    2 years ago

    Typical liberal. I’m left of that but thank you for the pedantry. It’s still pork and that goes to the wealthy and corporations, is the point. I’ll let you figure out which group works for the commoners.

    • Julian@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      I’m leftist too and would love for someone other than old centrist men to run the country but saying Biden and Trump are the same is just ignorant. One is a straight up racist, misogynist fascist who has done irreparable damage to the country, and the other is at least somewhat competent and has enacted policies like the COVID relief stipend and pausing student loan debt payments. Yes, he also is a shill for big companies and should be doing way more. But it does make a difference for millions of people. All you do by treating them as the same is discourage people from voting, and that voter apathy is what got us trump, and could get us desantes. Short of a political revolution, that still is our best way to enact actual change. Plus, those things aren’t mutually exclusive.

      • Maeve@kbin.social
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        2 years ago

        Good politician-bad politician ruse imo. It’s not the age so much as the recorded history. That Overton Window is so right, it’s wrong, now.

        • Julian@lemm.ee
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          2 years ago

          So what’s the solution? Again, voting is the only real way to get any change done right now, and while it’s minimal, I’d rather have a politician that has a minimal good effect vs none at all. The right thrives on voter apathy, they want you to feel like both sides are the same so they can take power, strip away voter rights, and stay in power - exactly what’s happening in conservative states like Florida and Texas.

          Trust me, I want there to be another option, some sort of large-scale protest or revolution. But in lieu of that, the least we can do is make sure the minimal amount of damage is done.

          • Maeve@kbin.social
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            2 years ago

            Everyone who thinks a third party vote is wasted and holds their nose to vote for the establishment candidate could actually try voting third party. Robert Reich endorsed HRC at one time and he currently urges us to vote third party.

            • AnonTwo@kbin.social
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              2 years ago

              Last time I voted third party, trump got elected. So until we at least get something done about the supreme court I’m not doing that again.

              Telling people to vote third party in the current political atmosphere is just trying to divide a party’s votes. You can say you voted on your principles from as high a tower as you want as the world burns when the worst case scenario happens.

    • HubertManne@kbin.social
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      2 years ago

      This is actually what I find funny about conservatives. They paint someone like me as way extreme left anarchocommunist or something and its like. This is rediculous. Im just left of center and the party I vote for is just right of center. Your party is the one so extreme you see center as left.