When did I say that I was voting third party? You’re the one that has been suggesting that leftists can only get meaningful change via voting third party, which I disagree with, because electoralism cannot bring about leftward change within the Capitalist framework, so voting for Biden is the correct answer for a leftist.
Given a large enough data set, there will be outliers. But those few of you who are not idiots are already aware of that, so no need to explain. It’s a self-selecting statement.
Do you think that’s because democratic voters are biologically less likely to vote
Biologically? Really? You don’t believe that, I don’t believe that, I didn’t say that, and we’re both aware of all that, so it’s a dumb thing to say.
could it be that the DNC is doing a poor job of energizing the base?
As I said, you’re not the base.
the DNC supports the interests of Capitalists, because that’s their donor base. That’s why they appeal to Capitalists, and feign progressive support.
Wrong.
The DNC is a Capitalist parry that is bought and paid for by their donors, of course they care about money. That’s how Liberal Democracy is set up, as long as you have Capitalism and Democracy, the ruling parties will serve Capital before people.
Wrong.
You’re a confident conservative
Wrong and insulting, and just sad that you would consider progressives on par with literal nazis. We are not conservatives. You are just far removed from a realistic understanding of the world.
mald
I don’t even have words for how wrong this is
In any case, like I said, when you’re promoting a narrative that Democrats and Republicans are equally bad, you’re a shit stain on the underwear of humanity. The specific details of how you do your shilling are not terribly relevant. One tiny throwaway line about how the GOP are bad among a screed about how bad the Democrats are - that’s nothing.
It’s not a dumb thing to say, you just made the blanket claim that not enough democrats are voting without giving a reason why, so it was a useless statement.
I am the base, I vote dem, and you’re trying to convince me not to, and to instead vote third party for someone who will represent my views better. You don’t have to like me to understand that dems need to appeal to their voters.
How, exactly, is it wrong to say that the DNC upholds the interests of their donors? That’s the basis of lobbying.
You aren’t progressive, you’re anti-leftist and reactionary, which makes you a conservative. You may not be a fascist, but you are conservative.
You’ve been malding, after I proved you wrong you started throwing insults and crying.
In any case, I never once insinuated that the Democrats and Republicans are equally bad, otherwise I would be advocating for voting third party, instead of saying that leftist organization is easier under liberals than under fascists. You’re talking among leftists, of course the GOP are fascists and are seen as scum, I decry the evils of the GOP all the time.
Even now, you call me a shit stain for what I have been correct about this entire time, because you can’t actually disprove anything I say, just say “wrong.” That’s why I asked if you ever do any analysis, you’re one of the most right-wing members of lemmy.world, lmao.
and you’re trying to convince me not to, and to instead vote third party
Please stop. There’s no audience down here, it’s just you and me. There’s no need to pretend or project.
You’re shit talking Democrats because your leftist ass hates Democrats more than Republicans. You call me conservative for the same reason. You are so far down your bubble/rabbit hole of leftism, you are so removed from the reality of actual fascists, that it’s easier for you to attack Democrats instead. It’s difficult for you to actually conceive of Republicans, they’re so far off the scale of what you’re familiar with.
You need to return to reality. Leftist fringe ideals are not mainstream, but they are light years closer to Dems than Republicans. So stop attacking Democrats and start attacking fascists. Democrats are not corporatists. They do not rig elections. They do not cut taxes for the rich, raise them for the poor, and then tell the poor they’re better off. On almost every single issue there is one party pushing to make things better, and one party pushing to make things worse. It’s a very stark choice and if you can’t see the difference you need glasses.
And I’m not even saying give up your ideals. I’m saying push for them in the primary, especially in the legislature. But in the general election you should toe the fucking line if you ever want to vote for your ideals again.
The details are whatever. We can have respectful disagreements on many things.
Anyone who suggests that voting 3rd party will do anything except help trump needs to be smacked until they no longer think that.
When did I say that I was voting third party? You’re the one that has been suggesting that leftists can only get meaningful change via voting third party, which I disagree with, because electoralism cannot bring about leftward change within the Capitalist framework, so voting for Biden is the correct answer for a leftist.
I wasn’t necessarily referring to you specifically, just a common leftist theme. All the Genocide Joe stuff.
“You’re all idiots” sure bud, lmao
Given a large enough data set, there will be outliers. But those few of you who are not idiots are already aware of that, so no need to explain. It’s a self-selecting statement.
So you don’t actually have anything that I’ve said is wrong, you just want to call me an idiot because you’re anti-leftist, got it.
I mean, if you insist
Biologically? Really? You don’t believe that, I don’t believe that, I didn’t say that, and we’re both aware of all that, so it’s a dumb thing to say.
As I said, you’re not the base.
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong and insulting, and just sad that you would consider progressives on par with literal nazis. We are not conservatives. You are just far removed from a realistic understanding of the world.
I don’t even have words for how wrong this is
In any case, like I said, when you’re promoting a narrative that Democrats and Republicans are equally bad, you’re a shit stain on the underwear of humanity. The specific details of how you do your shilling are not terribly relevant. One tiny throwaway line about how the GOP are bad among a screed about how bad the Democrats are - that’s nothing.
It’s not a dumb thing to say, you just made the blanket claim that not enough democrats are voting without giving a reason why, so it was a useless statement.
I am the base, I vote dem, and you’re trying to convince me not to, and to instead vote third party for someone who will represent my views better. You don’t have to like me to understand that dems need to appeal to their voters.
How, exactly, is it wrong to say that the DNC upholds the interests of their donors? That’s the basis of lobbying.
You aren’t progressive, you’re anti-leftist and reactionary, which makes you a conservative. You may not be a fascist, but you are conservative.
You’ve been malding, after I proved you wrong you started throwing insults and crying.
In any case, I never once insinuated that the Democrats and Republicans are equally bad, otherwise I would be advocating for voting third party, instead of saying that leftist organization is easier under liberals than under fascists. You’re talking among leftists, of course the GOP are fascists and are seen as scum, I decry the evils of the GOP all the time.
Even now, you call me a shit stain for what I have been correct about this entire time, because you can’t actually disprove anything I say, just say “wrong.” That’s why I asked if you ever do any analysis, you’re one of the most right-wing members of lemmy.world, lmao.
Please stop. There’s no audience down here, it’s just you and me. There’s no need to pretend or project.
You’re shit talking Democrats because your leftist ass hates Democrats more than Republicans. You call me conservative for the same reason. You are so far down your bubble/rabbit hole of leftism, you are so removed from the reality of actual fascists, that it’s easier for you to attack Democrats instead. It’s difficult for you to actually conceive of Republicans, they’re so far off the scale of what you’re familiar with.
You need to return to reality. Leftist fringe ideals are not mainstream, but they are light years closer to Dems than Republicans. So stop attacking Democrats and start attacking fascists. Democrats are not corporatists. They do not rig elections. They do not cut taxes for the rich, raise them for the poor, and then tell the poor they’re better off. On almost every single issue there is one party pushing to make things better, and one party pushing to make things worse. It’s a very stark choice and if you can’t see the difference you need glasses.
And I’m not even saying give up your ideals. I’m saying push for them in the primary, especially in the legislature. But in the general election you should toe the fucking line if you ever want to vote for your ideals again.