• Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    no one is allowed an opinion that wouldn’t hold up in a specific courtroom.

    I think your definition of murder is shit, regardless of a courtroom being involved, hence why my first first example didn’t involve a courtroom at all.

    FascistDefender9000

    Funny name there. Thinly veiled ad-hominems aside, do you think that Kyle Rittenhouse (or anyone else) should be denied due process because of their fascist beliefs? That actually sounds pretty fascist to me…

    … opinions contrary to legal definitions are 100% evil and abhorrent…

    Not what I said. This is a poor attempt at a strawman.

    What’s next in a world where people’s opinions aren’t based on law?

    Pretty much the usual shit? Laws are based on established opinions about social conduct. You’re the one who thinks that your opinion of what makes a person a murderer should be used in legal proceedings, which is why you are so angry that a teen in a clear-cut self defense scenario did not get convicted of murder.

    I cannot just sit idly by while opinions like “taking a gun to menace people you hate and then killing them likely means you premeditated exactly such a scenario” exist!!!

    That is your opinion on what happened. In the case of what actually happened, should Kyle, or anyone else, lay on the ground and let people beat, and possibly even execute them, after they tried to de-escalate and escape the situation, or do they have a right to defend themselves?

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      8 months ago

      That is your opinion on what happened.

      Which is why it’s weird you didn’t just move on and I’m still getting ridiculous messages in my inbox. Now you’re trying to imply that I think legal processes shouldn’t exist due to my read of a single situation. Try harder. Good luck with your trolling campaign.

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        8 months ago

        Now you’re trying to imply that I think legal processes shouldn’t exist due to my read of a single situation.

        This wasn’t you?

        He murdered two people, flashed his Republican card, and walked.

        This isn’t your definition of a murderer?

        I think it’s murder when you take a gun to a place specifically to oppose a group you hate, then you kill multiple of those said people that you knew before leaving home that you hated.

        FascistDefender9000

        That wasn’t you insinuating that I’m defending fascists, and that it’s a bad thing to hope for equal application of justice, even when the people protected by it are people that I find reprehensible?

        Self-reflection is a removed, ain’t it?

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          8 months ago

          Rittenhouse and his party are fascists. Sorry you’re mad they can’t kill anyone they want without being criticized. Must be really hard for them.

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            8 months ago

            Rittenhouse and his party are fascists.

            You’re right about that. Being a fascist doesn’t preclude self defense. Or is that your actual opinion, that people you deem to be fascist have to let themselves be beaten and executed in public?