We're allowing non-IRL loli/shota - Lemmy NSFW
lemmynsfw.com
When I opened this site 5 days ago, I could not have guessed that I would post such a post. But here we are. As you know, we did a poll on this topic here [https://lemmynsfw.com/post/26029]. Around 40% of people said to block, the rest said to not to. In such cases, we wanted to make the poll, even though it doesn’t matter. Right now, I’m still currently agreeing with @bobbiguy2122 [https://lemmynsfw.com/u/bobbiguy2122] here [https://lemmynsfw.com/comment/82152]. We are going to let community moderators handle the situation in within limits. So it’s going to be users choice to subscribe to that community or creating new one with his own rules. #### Why not completely block it If we are going to split, there is so many fractions as well. As someone who only likes women and plain porn, I don’t want to ban tentacle, futanari or gay stuff. Because even though they are kinky, they are also a pleasure. Being attracted to petite teens is just like these pleasures, and the vast majority actually like it. I think we should not ban this pleasure just because it is in a dangerous area. #### As a result First of all we will explicitly ban IRL loli images. Although we will allow non-IRL content under moderator control, tho we will control childish content independently of moderators too. We will make this distinction according to images that look and act like children. #### Defederation I see a lot of people are worried about this situation. But I don’t care. Because as you can see, beehaw, one of the largest instances, blocked the other 2 largest instances. This situation is inevitable in NSFW only instances like us. As a result, you must have one main account, where you can access all instances, and one NSFW account, where you can only access NSFW content. For example, I don’t plan to block any instances on this instance, except in extreme cases.

SEE SECOND EDIT DOWN BELOW

Lets not beat around the bush here, lots of people like to look at boobs and dicks.

Lemmynsfw was looking like a good place to go, but reading the “Loli” announcement thread where they equate drawn child porn to petite women, its clear the owner is not the right person to be hosting a NSFW instance for the majority of people.

Is there anywhere else that people can recommend?

There is undoubtably a need for such an instance. Can we discuss this like adults?

edit: UPDATE

Take this update as you will

I’m taking it as a backtrack, but it’s still not an instance I want to associate with.

Lots of people keen to offer their opinion of drawn picture of naked kids, haven’t seen any alternatives though

Edit 2: At this point I think their updated rules are good. It took a bit to get there, but in the end they appear to be taking a hard stance. Hopefully this is enforced.

I dont think it was a case of “whoops bad English” like they are suggesting, I think it was a total 180 backflip. This doesnt really instill confidence in the admins IMO, but im happy that they have made the right decision in regards to allowed content. Hopefully this is was just some early wobblies and the community can move on.

  • PabloDiscobar@kbin.social
    14·
    1 year ago

    You wrote:

    Guess other instances do not care regardless even if its correctly flagged and tagged and everything. I had a discussion about this topic with the mods of feddit.de, but they are firm to block whole instances if there is any NSFW community on it. No matter what. I am now on kbin and deleted my account there.

    Why don’t you open an account on one of those instance instead of pushing it in our throats?

    • Alexmitter@kbin.social
      9·
      1 year ago

      No one wants to shove petite Asian ladies into your throat. Just don’t subscribe to those communities/magazines. That NSFW magazines appear in All is nothing but a technical issue.
      Why the hell do you think having 5 accounts so you can subscribe to everything you want is acceptable.

      • PabloDiscobar@kbin.social
        131·
        1 year ago

        Everyone will note that you never address the pedo data ending up hosted by Ernest if we don’t defederate. You never talk about that, it’s always about you, you you. Well sorry for you but you are not alone and there are real-life implications to hosting this content.

        This pedo content has nothing to do on this server.

        Just don’t subscribe to those communities/magazines.

        No, YOU go out and get your illegal content from the source.

          • PabloDiscobar@kbin.social
            71·
            1 year ago

            Go run your own instance, you will be able to federate with whoever you want. Your instance = your responsibility.

            • Alexmitter@kbin.social
              6·
              1 year ago

              Again, no one is talking about child porn beside you. Everything lemmynsfw allows is legal in any jurisdiction. And everything it disallows like Loli and shota is clearly something no one wants to see here on kbin or lemmy even if it is legal in many parts of the world. The line is right there and lemmynsfw never challaned it.

              • PabloDiscobar@kbin.social
                41·
                1 year ago

                What you say is wrong and people already explained to you why, you did not answer them.

                This is not a game. This is real life with real consequences.

                • Alexmitter@kbin.social
                  4·
                  1 year ago

                  What you say is wrong and people already explained to you why, you did not answer them.

                  Again, only you talk about child porn. To again give you the exact rules layed out:

                  -     loli/shota are BANNED and not okay in any way.
-     IRL kids are BANNED OBVIOUSLY because no shit.
-     characters who are petite/young-looking but not obviously underage are ALLOWED because as an instance the votes decided that banning all of it was destructive, and differentiating between them can be impossible.

                  I kinda suspect you are 14, because everyone else would have understood by now that banning all petite/young-looking actors in porn would kick out large parts of Asian actors from the industry. Shit like school-class role-playing is about the most usual stuff in Straigt Pornography on this planet and teen looking actors are among the most popular world wide in straight pornography. I had to literally research that, Gay men are usually not as knowledgeable on straight porn.

                  Again, loli and shora, aka drawn depiction of children or children-looking characters are banned.

                  This is not a game. This is real life with real consequences.

                  Yep, and the consequence you took out for you is looking like a prude online for no reason at all, making a elephant out of a mosquito.

        • scottgal@readit.buzz
          71·
          1 year ago

          It’s true, drawn child porn is still child porn in many juristictions, e.g, in the UK it’s explicitly prohibited. https://jd-solicitors.co.uk/guide-to-uk-pornography-laws/#:~:text=UK%20Child%20pornography%20laws&text=The%20first%20is%20indecent%20images,%2C%20and%20computer%2Dgenerated%20images
          You can try and argue in court that the server you’re legally responsible for hosting child porn is permitted but…good luck.