sad seeing how many of them folded straight away
I guess laziness and habit will lead to passiveness and desire to stick with the safety of “proven solutions”. The decisions of the mods would not matter if the normal users started leaving en mass. Sadly this would not happen, or maybe it’s a blessing in disguise, lemmy and kbin are much more reminiscent of the old Internet for me, which is something that I have missed.
The important thing is that we are here, I really hope everyone of us will do their best to make of the fediverse something better, compated to the platforms of the big, greedy corporations.
Makes me wonder what they are getting out of it. I mean if it is just volunteer work, the job goes to shit, the company you are volunteering your time with threatens you, why not drop it and take it to another platform where you would be appreciated.
Maybe they have a good reason to cave. But I can’t see it and my naivety just makes me think they are getting kickbacks somewhere somehow.
You know what? Options exist, alternatives have been literally plastered everywhere on reddit since one week before the blackout began. And everything the CEO has done since then very clearly shows he considers us shit.
Some people don’t care? They’re eager to be treated like that? They probably deserve to stay on reddit, it’s up to them.
Those fuckers are undeleting my comments.
Why not delete your account? Heck link it to your email, use a VPN to show as being in Europe and tell them to delete all info related to your account.
GDPR FTW. It’s a real and powerful tool to protect people from companies. Use it.
How did you know?
Because I deleted all my comments and logged in and my coments are coming back.
it’s surprising how many people will do things for free if you delude them into thinking they have power.
I mod a smaller sub and haven’t received this, seems like they’re negotiating with the biggest subs/mods only. I haven’t gotten a single communication from Reddit about this outside of what’s publicly posted or in the news.
So we’ll take the protest to the comments? Who’s gonna mod if they kick out the mods?
get back to unpaid work or else!!!
Weak ass protest if mods just cave… I’d be like go for it fuckers… I mean you aren’t going to pay someone and just placing random folks in that position without the mod tools necessary to do the unpaid job is really going to implode.
I don’t like many things about reddit.
Having said that - this article is bullshit. Let me draw you a picture. You run a company that has a product. You give the users of your product a lot of freedom. That is naive, wishful thinking, goodwill, whatever. Your users start having an issue with the direction of the company. Your users start sabotaging your company. You find yourself between a rock and a hard place.
No matter what you do or do not do - bullshit articles like this will pop up.
Switch users to creators of said product and it is not bullshit at all. Reddit is only what it is due to the users contributions. The site itself is nothing but a medium.
You are correct.
However they still have bills to pay, and if most of the creativity is locked down - they will obviously want to do something about it.
I don’t agree. Reddit didn’t need to make their API costs hundreds of times greater than it actually costs them. If they made them reasonable, both sides could have profited. Apps would still live and Reddit would still earn money from the users using those apps.
Another thing, the whole point of Reddit is that you’re giving the users a lot of freedom. The concept doesn’t even work if you don’t do that. Reddit can’t moderate all of the subreddits themselves, there are thousands upon thousands of mods doing it for free. Reddit can’t take on that job, it would cost so much they would be bleeding money.
Same as the other comment - irrelevant. This article is not about API pricing. Not about the blackout. It’s about reddit trying to save whatever ruin there’s left.
If you wanna focus on that part then the second part of my comment still stands. Reddit can’t survive without the work of unpaid moderators and saying that it was a mistake to give the users freedom is kinda stupid. The whole point of Reddit is that users have freedom, remove that and Reddit doesn’t work anymore.
Not having the ability to have a private subreddit would affect very little for the absolute majority of users. Actually - what is even the point of a private subreddit? Private messaging has existed forever.
Anyway, I digress. This article feels to have been spawned into existence purely because the authors had nothing better to do with their lives.
I’m not sure I agree, it is about the API pricing because that is what the Mods are objecting too. The article highlights the surprising outcome that Reddit feels it is better to threaten mods than back down on a clearly very unpopular decision.
Is this path really better than changing the API (and API terms) to make third party apps include their ads, plus perhaps a nominal cost to cover the expense to rhem? I don’t claim to know enough of the details, but this move doesn’t look likely to improve Reddit, or Reddit’s value in the short, medium or long term to me.
The rest of the world differentiates pricing based on type of usage, one thing is users/small devs, a totally different thing is corporate usage (AI scraping in this case).
It would have been more than enough for reddit to do the same and noone would have objected.
It’s reddit who put themselves “between a rock and a hard place” by managing this in the most ridiculously stupid way possible, not the users.
You are correct. Unfortunately, that is not what the article is about.
Idk, this isn’t simply about making and selling a widgit or service. It’s an interesting other in which the vast majority of the product and service is created and run by the same users. Reddit just creates a space but people don’t really care about the space generally. They care about what happens in the space that the users create and moderate. The users can just find another hangout which could eliminate the need for the space.
I’d argue it is exactly that - the space to post whatever floats your boat is the service they’re selling. There are also a bunch of other transactions where you’re the product, but that’s not the point here.
Which is why I’ve switched to Lemmy. I’m under to illusion Reddit owes me or the moderators anything. Nobody from Reddit had ever forced anyone to moderate anything.
I’ve loved their service; I don’t anymore - hence I’m here.
Well that’s the point the article was making. The actions reddit took aren’t in line with the user base and as such they questioned it and many have decided to move elsewhere.
