I can see how they got away with not saying any Arabic terms in the last movie, but come on, are they really gonna ret-con the whole vocabulary of the setting to avoid upsetting some cracker groypers?
I can see how they got away with not saying any Arabic terms in the last movie, but come on, are they really gonna ret-con the whole vocabulary of the setting to avoid upsetting some cracker groypers?
i mean there’s also the people who would correctly point out the orientalist appropriation of random arab cultural elements
That’s a shallow reading. Herbert engaged very seriously with Islamic philosophy and the dynamics of colonialism; nothing about it was random. A white guy borrowing any elements from another culture is not sufficient to demonstrate orientalism, especially when he so obviously takes the side of the Future Arabs against Future Honkeys.
Definitely. Herbert genuinely engages with west asian culture, and it’s not a surprise. His source material were his own muslim friends’ historical experience, and his readings of Islamic philosophy.
I think I’m gonna make a new handle offa yer joke there if that’s ok
I need an alt and “Future Honkey” dovetails nicely with my love of bad puns and its proximity to gay space communism. Do you mind?
Lol
Yeah go for it champ
Is that fair tho…? All culture is bastardised in the Dune universe. Western or Eastern. It shows such a distant future that anything that seems familiar upon closer inspection is truly alien.
The Atreides are “Roman”, but they really are not right? The whole culture of Caladan for example is like a generic “utopian” bucolic Western European medieval vibe. It’s in itself a bastardisation of “western culture” no? Like an “occidentalist” view in a way.
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But that’s not the point in Dune. It’s about how human culture shifts and absorbs itself over time. How marginal cultures become central, and central cultures become marginal. That’s how I saw it at least.
good book tho