• Knighthawk 0811@lemmy.one
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    artists who don’t like this are no longer allowed to look at previous artist’s works before making their own. fan fiction is certainly not allowed.

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      Bad comparison. The scale is way greater. I can’t go through multiple terabytes of reference images.

      As an artist, that’s my issue with current models. It shouldn’t be opted-in by default with questionable opt-out options.

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        but that’s exactly how the models are being trained. by manually going through all the images and describing them.

        and you can’t really complain that computers go through data at a greater scale than humans… that’s the whole point. that argument doesn’t hold

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          It’s worth entertaining the observation that these learning models piggyback off underpaid human effort to funnel wealth towards the 1%.

          It’s just that the solution isn’t to stop the tech. That never works. It’s out in the world now.

          The real solution is much harder. We need to overhaul our economy and put in mechanisms to recirculate wealth downwards.

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      Well… yes? Fan fiction is not allowed to be published commercially and creators have successfully filed copyright takedowns to remove fan fiction, although most creators choose not to because it’s free advertising. But AI art models are being used commercially (charging for usage, AI-generated art can be used in products) despite being trained on art they don’t have the rights to.

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      The most recent episode of Cody’s Showdy puts this in a pretty nice way which my memory will now butcher:

      Yes, art is always derivative, but these past works are being examined by a human, who then imparts their own experience into creating a new work. With generative AI, there is no individualistic human touch in the equation bringing new meaning, just an algorithm looking at and replicating patterns.

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    The only way to “steal” copyleft works is to ask the next person not to pass it along.