This also includes ceasing development and destroying their copies of the code.

The GitHub repo page for Yuzu now returns a 404, as well. In addition, the repo for the Citra 3DS emulator was also taken down.

As of at least 23:30 UTC, Yuzu’s website and Citra’s website have been replaced with a statement about their discontinuation.


Other sources found by @Daughter3546@lemmy.world:


There is also an active Reddit thread about this: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1b6gtb5/

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    Wow. Fuck Nintendo. I own 2 switches and ToTK. Of course I emulate it, so I don’t have to play at 20fps. And I can mod the game. Not buying another nintendo product again. I’m done. I’ll just pirate it since it seems I don’t own it anyways. Can’t play it where I want, how I want, so why play by the rules at all.

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    The fuck? Why? Emulators are entirely legal and they could’ve won

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      Nintendo went after them for using (not distributing) prod.keys to decrypt game titles and system firmware under 17 U.S.C. 1201 (2), which sidesteps having to challenge the legality of emulation directly. I guess Yuzu doesn’t have the funds to fight them in court on that.

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      Because Nintendo is a vexatious litigant that weaponizes the legal system in an attempt to bankrupt their opponents.

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      They agreed to delete, “all circumvention tools used for developing or using Yuzu—such as TegraRcmGUI, Hekate, Atmosphère, Lockpick_RCM, NDDumpTool, nxDumpFuse, and TegraExplorer,” and hand over any “physical circumvention devices” and “modified Nintendo hardware.

      They know what their emulator was primarily used for. Key word here. Primarily.

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      They were selling hacking tools that used Nintendo’s IP to do so. That isn’t legal.

      Having a legal use case doesn’t mean they weren’t breaking the law by profiting off of selling the tools.

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    I own a launch era Switch. When I run Yuzu, I use the keys that I pulled off of it. When I play games in Yuzu, they are games I have purchased and dumped using the Switch Nintendo sold me. The controller I use is a Nintendo Pro controller. I play on my computer because it is MUCH better at playing Switch games than my overclocked Switch is. Just fuck off with this Nintendo, stop making your games worse.

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      Your games should stutter just the way Nintendo intends them to or you’re not getting the full experience!

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        Your Switch needs to be hackable. If yours is any revision beyond the initial release chances are you are out of luck. I set it up a long while ago so I can’t recall the steps, but googling “Nintendo switch overclock” will get you what you’re looking for.

        The Switch is based on the Nvidia Shield, whose stock clocks are roughly double the Switch’s. This means you can OC it without exceeding the manufacturer’s specs, which is pretty neat. Bringing the memory clocks up really helps titles like ToTK.

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          I have a hackable Switch but I’m afraid of bricking it or something. Is that a concern? I’m pretty technically inclined but no genius.

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            It is dead simple, just make sure you get one of the little jobbies that you slide down the right joycon rail to short the pins that you need shorted - you’ll be doing it often when you’re setting things up and you don’t want to be messing around with a bit of wire. I seriously doubt that you will brick anything, especially if you take your time and read everything through before you get started. These instructions should get you where you want to be.

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    Let this be a lesson: if you try to forcibly pry open the gates of DRM hell and let software be free, you best let it be truly free and only money off it from the donations of your supporters. Don’t be like yuzu and monetize the living hell out of your emulator. Don’t stuff it with telemetry, don’t hide releases behind a patreon paywall.

    That all being said, fuck Nintendo.

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      tbf there was never a paywall. ea = latest yuzu master branch with some work-in-progress-but-almost-ready-for-general-use prs merged in.
      anyone could have taken the repo, merged prs from the list and built it, with no need to pay for anything. It’s free software after all

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        There was actually someone who did that, the repo was called pineapple-src and it was fairly popular

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        Yeah you’re right, it was brought to my attention that the lawsuit was about decrypting games, especially Tears of the Kingdom, before they were released. The monetization was just to provide earlier access to precompiled binaries

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      Bleem was a paid and they won, but this was before the anti circumvention addendum. Yuzu wasn’t sued for being an emulator, but because it used the keys file to decrypt games.

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        Should have let the decryption be fully external, and not just needing the keys

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    I started out in the computer industry working for a company that reverse engineered and built IBM compatible terminal systems, This was more than 40 years ago, when that was its own large and profitable sector of the computer hardware market. It was absolutely legal to build ‘plug compatible’ reverse engineered third party systems. DRM is almost entirely horseshit that has helped turn the entire tech industry into silo’d enshittified monopolies.

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      Nothing capitalists say about feudal rights mean much of anything. More or less the entire tech industry isn’t allowed to have non-competes and it’s such a big field because of it.

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    Can’t blame them but at the same time, yeah kind of sad they folded as easily as a Nintendo DS.

    I will say Nintendo can count on me, a older game with disposable income and kids, not buying a switch 2 with they way they’ve been acting with all of their lawsuit and anti-consumer practices.

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      Same here: When I want to buy a game for portable play, I’ll just use my Steam Deck and buy from Valve or GOG instead, maybe even emulate some Nintendo games on it out of spite.

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        Same, I gave my daughter my Switch and used Yuzu to play the games I owned for it on my TV (at greatly improved resolution and framerate, of course).

        Now that my PC is hooked up to my TV, my next console is just Steam and my next portable will be the Steam Deck as well.

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      Logging in to cancel my switch online right now. I was using YUZU to play games I bought from them, in some cases even more than once. F Nintendo. I won’t be buying a Switch 2.

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        Better yet, since their hate on piracy is so big, buy HACKED switch 2 when it’ll be available and pirate the fuck out of them

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          Just get a Steam Deck and be able to play Computer games too!

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            I honestly wish there a would be steam deck with size of psvita, the size is only problem, steam deck is better in everything but size

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              GPD sells a PSP Go shaped computer, which, if the Steam Deck didnt exist, was probably going to be the computer I would have ended up owning, but Valve’s version of Linux and its control mapping is PHENOMENAL, so I dont know how it’d compare in that sense

              Edit: According to this video the GPD Win 4 works pretty amazingly with Steams OS, so it seems like a valid option

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                Yeah that was good, but price, and psvita had sensor controls as steam deck but gpd didn’t, yet i always wanted to have “gpd max” umpc since it’s versatile

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          Somebody would have most likely bought a switch 2 to hack it, so that’s still money in nintendos hand either way, plus free marketing/advertisement of nintendo IP. Fuck 'em.

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      As another older gamer I have bought every single switch first party game to display them on my shelves. I also have them all on my PC as roms so I can enjoy them with high fidelity and stable 60 FPS.

      I will neither buy another one of their games nor their next console and I also downloaded each and every rom I could find out of spite. I hope their next console crashes and burns like the Wii U…

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      This right here. Disney and Nintendo get no more of my hard earned $$$. These companies create iconic products and they get paid for it. All of the DRM anti-consumer over-reach is where I draw the line though.

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    I can load a pirated copy onto a modded console, does that mean that Nintendo is liable for their software being used for piracy?

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    Nintendo got them alone in a dark room and told them that if they don’t settle, admit and pay something they might be able to pay off in their lifetimes (Nintendo doesn’t care about the money, 2.4 million is nothing to them), Nintendo would tie them up in legal battles for years, still making them broke and probably blocking them from doing something new.

    Or something.

    Fucking corporate shills. Why can’t we just all have fun gaming. Piracy increases sales.

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      There’s no way they would state that directly, or they would be labeled a vexatious litigant. They might have emphasized their desire to refuse future settlement offers if the first one wasn’t taken, if you catch my drift.

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        Personally I think there’s a direct indirectness in everything you say to a person when alone in a dark room.

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    I was thinking of buying a few Nintendo games to use on an emulator but that’s a lot of effort and there are other good games out there. Glad I didn’t so I wouldn’t feel shame for giving them more money. Nintendo Direct my balls into your mouth.

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    Nintendo can count on its games being pirated even more now. Good for me that I never touched a nintendo in my life.

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      I helped add to that by modding my launch Switch this past weekend. Nice to be able to play Link’s Awakening without that ugly-ass blur!