Is there a way to figure out if they blocked youon Signal if you can still technically message them?

Edit: he seems to have blocked me or hasn’t used Signal since a single emphatically non-controversial/non-hurtful comment so he either blocked me or hasn’t opened Signal for >month. He’s not responding to anything else either so he’s either depressed or blocked+done with me.

Edit: I’ll know when it comes birthday time. I’m not a Bridezilla about birthdays but it would be unusual for him to not wish me one. He’s never not done so. I’ll have my answer when that happens 🙏 (namaste) If he wants to be a dick about it and leave me in the dark totally those days are fortunatley numbered :/

Edit: we’re white and very (North)-American.

  • Fondots@lemmy.world
    351·
    9 months ago

    No real advice to give her, but I thought I’d share this story.

    About 6 or 7 years ago, one of my friends unfriended basically everyone we know on Facebook and stopped replying to text messages out of the blue. Some of us had been hanging out with him a few days before, and there was no sign that anything was off.

    To this day we don’t really know exactly what happened, but we have a pretty solid theory.

    My friend was born in the Middle East, but moved here when he was pretty young. His father is from that country, his mother is a white American, and from what I understand is not Muslim. His father apparently got a lot of shit from his family for that.

    His father was always very strict, he’d gotten into fights with him before, there was one occasion where his father had threatened to move the family back to his home country, my friend stood up to him about that because his younger siblings had really only ever lived here, and ended up getting thrown out of the house for a while. His father used threats like that and cutting him off from his siblings to keep him in line. There had been some other similar fights because his father didn’t approve of girls he was dating and such.

    Few if any of us had ever met his father, but I get the impression he probably wasn’t a fan of us either.

    A couple of us went to his home to make sure he was ok, he answered the door, we didn’t really get any answers except that he had made the decision with some other people that he couldn’t associate with us anymore.

    We later found out that he had been dating a girl, probably not one his dad would have approved of, and had also ghosted her at the same time.

    Pretty much everyone left on his Facebook at the time were people with Middle Eastern names.

    So we’re pretty sure what happened is that his father came down on him with some big ultimatum to cut ties with anyone he didn’t approve of or else.

    A couple of us saw him in the wild once, he wouldn’t acknowledge any of them. I shoot him a text once in a while, I have no idea if he’s seen any of them, but I’ve never gotten a direct reply. A couple years ago, another friend’s father passed away, we all used to hang out at his home, so I reached out to someone I knew from high school who wasn’t defriended, and asked if they could let him know, and they did, the only reply I got through that mutual friend was a quick thanks.

    Sometimes there’s some really heavy stuff going on under the surface, and you can’t always count on getting a solid answer.

  • j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    29·
    9 months ago

    Try to give them the benefit of the doubt and give them space. Tell yourself things like they may have had a death in the family, or their phone got stolen/broken. Try your best to focus on other things and take on something new and interesting. Use exercise to adjust your brain chemistry if your feelings are overpowering your logic to give them space.

    If nothing serious has happened, you learned a valuable lesson about them, and know to maintain more distance.

    Stay classy!

      • j4k3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        9 months ago

        After a broken neck and back, and everything I’ve gone through in life, the most valuable lesson I can share is deceptively simple in thought but equally powerful in practice; only worry about the things you can change right now in this moment. Everything else is a waste of time and energy. Anxiety will get you nowhere. Relationships are brain chemistry too. They are addictions. They must be actively managed for your best health. If you are having trouble, go for a walk somewhere safe. The exercise will help get it off your mind.

      • funkajunk@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        9 months ago

        It could be. Unfortunately, all things come to an end. But as they say, “don’t cry because it’s over, smile because it happened.”.

    • andyburke@fedia.io
      2·
      9 months ago

      A message that someone is in your thoughts with no ask can be a great thing to toss to a friend in this situation. Just make sure you aren’t pushing for any kind of response.

  • Truffle
    91·
    9 months ago

    Not getting an answer is an answer. I wouldn’t insist on contacting them.

  • intensely_human@lemm.ee
    7·
    9 months ago

    For me it was that my friend just took one too many opportunities to twist a knife in my gut, and I realized he was only pretending to be my friend in order to hurt me.

  • bia@lemmy.world
    6·
    9 months ago

    This sucks, I know. I just responded to a friend’s message from two months ago, and I’ve felt bad about not responding since then. But life happens, and for me at least it had nothing to do about that friends behaviour.

  • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    9 months ago

    I don’t wanna cause any undue paranoia but it might be worth looking back on anything that might have offended or hurt your friend that you might not have realized.

    I once had a friend that was gaslighting me about his attempts to cozy up to my girlfriend / childhood friend and “accidentally” touching her inappropriately after I told him in no uncertain terms that I wasn’t comfortable with it and didn’t trust him. Eventually, in a drug induced grandiose rant, he admitted my suspicions were correct the whole time, and afterwards he refused to apologize because he didn’t believe he did anything wrong. So I ghosted him.

    I’m not saying it’s likely you did anything that horrible to your friend without knowing, but I am saying my best friend firmly believed he had done nothing wrong and maybe it’s worth considering or reconsidering the last month or two of events leading up to him ghosting you.

  • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
    5·
    9 months ago

    You know sometimes it has nothing to do with you. Some people’s first instinct when things go wrong is to limit the number of people they deal with. Heck I will admit it, I broke up with a girl a long long time ago just because I didn’t have the emotional bandwidth to have a girlfriend and deal with everything else.

    If someone wants space from you let them have it. Don’t creep don’t force yourself on them and don’t take it personally.

    • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      9 months ago

      I’m just emotionally detaching from it. He felt that was necessary for him so I fee it necessary to limit my exposure to folks who do that kinda thing. I don’t allow people to play tiddlywinks with my emotions and friendship like that so in my way, I’m grateful he finally confirmed his cowardice and flakiness (i know, unemotional, amirite? Work in progress ;)

      • SuperKoel@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        I would say that there can be many reasons for a persons absence in you life. But in this absence we can also see our own fears.

        I am literally slightly ignoring someone whose uncanny birthdy is today. A person from the comments said it. some people reduce their circle when it gets tough. For me, i find it hard to be person right now. Every single day is the make or break of my life. Massive debt, constant house of cards feeling.

        I recieved a message, she said it’s her birthday. I look at my personal calender, i reply, yes it is, what you want me to do about it.

        I was rude. I know that someone really cares and it’s her birthday even, why not just be nice?

        Then again if someone is willin to force quit a friend just because they are absent is just having trust issues. And as someone who is still my best friend to this day once said. “you don’t just throw this away.”

        • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          9 months ago

          I honestly hate when people try to nudge you into recognizing their birthday. Its like “we can’t upset the Beavis” and its like, fuck off. If I feel close to you and you’re in my program, I’ll prolly get around to it assuming you haven’t ruined it by soliciting.

          People who do that get a wish at 11:59pm lol and next time they do it I stop completely because they got it covered for me so well :) People who obsess about dates like that are an enormous turnoff to me, whether its family or friendz

          U took away your own upvote eh 😇

          • SuperKoel@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            that is always my instinctual reaction too and why i was harsh in my reply to her, however i recognise it is much more complicated than that.

            again why someone tries to remind you of their birthday can be because of many reasons. Maybe it is a male, and you are the only person that remembered it last year and accidentally he let fear take a hold of the keyboard. Maybe it is someone that is always used to getting best wishes and let audacity take hold of their keyboard.

            It is spoken expectations that sour a relationship, but fulfilling unspoken expectations is a the relationship.

            when you expect people to not break contact you might not be compatible with people who expect that they can come and leave.

            But it is okay to have different types of expectations for different people.

            It is okay to adapt to someone elses unspoken terms somtimes, you will find that many beautifull people can be very hard to communicate with.

              • SuperKoel@lemmy.cafeEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                “Nobody is entitled to your words or actions or time”. I ofcourse do not know the full context but that sounds like the porogative of the person the main post is about.

                When marching to a just victory be aware of the trail you leave.

                I have force quite relationships by pressing x goodbye and i have stopped talking to people. I only regret the force quit cuz i also coulda just not talked to him for a while and he could return someday.then there wouldn’t even be any stress.

                there are times and places for people also tries to convey die or nothing mentalities may close doors, only to satisfy the need to be recognised.

                • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldOP
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  What I mean is wishing someone a happy _____ is a courtesy we do for each other. I dont consider it something anybody is entitled to or to throw a huge fit if someone doesn’t fall in line or reaches out “too late” or whatever. Its never an excuse to be a Bridezilla and people who want to act like that, I simply don’t want to be around. Its a very useful heuristic honestly.

                  We’ve never had this issue. He wished on mine, I wished on his. End of story. It just happens to be useful because he always has done so which means its a useful indication for what the situation is. If he doesn’t reach out, thats the first time ever so thwt tells me this isn’t likely a fluke but that he blocked me, he means for me to not be able to contact him, and I have one less birthday + fake friend to need to attend to. Its honestly just as well, I don’t want flaky people like that who can’t even let you know how they feel and give everyone closure.

  • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    9 months ago

    They’ve suddenly landed in a really controlling environment (be it a partner, parents, or a government), and wish to hide your relationship/keep you out of the crosshairs.

      • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        It’s likely in some cultural groups - and has been true for a friend or two of mine. A particular example was someone going to a Psych ward, where their phone was kept in a vault. Obviously you know more context than me. But the probability is nonzero.

    • cheese_greater@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      9 months ago

      How so? Please elaborate, altho i recgnize it was a bit emotional. I had a decent sleep and I’m over it sorta