• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    8 months ago

    money != capitalism

    In economies where no official currency exists, some commodity always becomes a de facto currency so that people can make trades that are too complex for bartering (I’m not carrying 2000 bushels of corn on me, but if you’ll accept these bits of metal in exchange for your plow, you can trade them for corn or whatever else you want).

    Every concept that could theoretically replace this function is just currency again.

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      8 months ago

      I disagree. There were money/curencyless societies. These societies had things like library and gift economies (concepts I support). While it is true that we can have money and a post-capitalist society, money or any concept which is pure resourc value. Can lead to an easement of resource accumulation which is one of the building blocks of capitalism. I am not that good at explaining stuff in comments, but Andrewism (a realy cool youtber whom introduced me to Solarpunk) made a video about whey we have to rethink our picture of early resource sharing (bartering) to be able to imagen a world beyond the restraints off currencies. https://piped.adminforge.de/watch?v=W-gdHrINyMU

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        8 months ago

        There were money/curencyless societies.

        Name 5, with populations higher than 10,000 and that were stable for >2 human lifetimes (~150 yrs).

        Bartering only works in small volumes, for localized economies, with relatively small communities. It doesn’t scale, and it isn’t flexible enough to allow for more complex forms of work. For instance, what would a web server administrator barter to a farmer for food?