Dont worry guys, Biden said we’ll have a ceasefire by this weekend, and obviously he’s not just incredibly out of touch with no idea what reality is like…
Don’t worry, the US will just politely ask the Israelis to stop acting like Nazis.
What is quite amazing is that so much of US foreign policy is based on presenting strength.
They do this while being absolutely cucked by the Israelis on the world stage.
Dont worry guys, Biden said we’ll have a ceasefire by this weekend, and obviously he’s not just incredibly out of touch with no idea what reality is like…
Yeah don’t worry about the fact that he vetoed a UN resolution calling for a ceasefire 10 days ago.
Its our fault for bringing forwards this criticism. Guys don’t you understand that if we show Biden how weak he is, we might get Trump who will also uh… support a genocide of the Palestinian people. We need to support Biden no matter what, no questions asked, no criticisms allowed.
Obv, /s, but who are we kidding, there won’t be a Palestinian people in Palestine by November.
Yeah that’s what a Trump supporter would say. You’re just mad cause your guy is loosing! (/s)
Never let facts get in the way of a good brow-beating.
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It increases political pressure on Israel, which does matter. What did vetoing it achieve?
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On the off chance that they do have some shred of real power, I would prefer they use it to try and end the genocide, rather than ignore it.
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I don’t care if it works or not I still want them to do it. I will take futile benevolence over callous apathy any day.
But he must finish his ice cream first.
Definitely not genocide /s
Hey, Israel has every right to defend themselves from starving children lined up for food. You must be one of those antisemitic people I’ve been hearing about.
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Look at all these human shields… shielding the food and medical aid. Guess we better mow them down.
It’s ok guys. They forgot to condemn Hamas while they were starving and seeking refuge so it’s ok.
You see, the food was Kkkhhhhaaamas.
Horrible horrible horrible
Occupy Israel
It’s no fault of IDF: those people were clearly shielding Hummus!
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Ok flame away, as clearly I’m going to be downvoted to oblivion or banned, but:
I read just now on the BBC that most of the casualties were due not to gunfire, as all the posts suggest, but to the aid Lorries driving over people in what seems like scenes of chaos and probable panic… and this is from a news outlet that leans to the left.
I’m not pro Hamas or IDF but I feel like (deserved or not), if what the Beeb say is true, then we’re allowing ourselves to get carried away here.
If someone opens fire at people in a crowded building and causes a crowd crush that kills dozens of people, do you blame the crowd or the dude who started mowing people down? Israel murdered those people by creating that situation regardless of the precise circumstances of their deaths.
And in so many more ways than that. There was a crush of people trying to “loot” food because they were starving. Which was also caused by Israel. If aid trucks were regularly coming into Gaza, they wouldn’t be dealing with desperate people when they got through.
If people swarm a stadium killing hundreds in their panic do you blame the people who crushed them or the police who intervened?
There is still a timeline to work through, and the full story will take time.
Let’s start with why were all these people starving and desperate for aid?
Your claim that this started with the IDF firing into the crowd around the trucks is exactly what’s being discussed here
could you explain to me how the anxious, starving crowd of people trying to reach aid “started” it?
Are you suggesting an anxious crowd couldn’t have started trampling eachother or couldn’t have caused the drivers to panic?
Are you suggesting that an anxious crowd devolving into a panic is improved by the addition of weapons fire?
If that is what happened, why would the article in the OP lie about it?
Why would you brush off these lies as unimportant?
Lie about what? Nothing in the article contradicts what I’ve said. Even if you buy the bit about Israel firing “warning shots” after the panic had already started, they still created this entire situation to begin with. They starved those people then tossed in some scraps and shot at them when they reacted pretty much exactly how any rational person would expect. It doesn’t fucking matter if most of the bodies don’t have IDF bullets lodged in them. They killed them all the same.
It’s wild how you read that article and just take the Israeli claim as truth when they’re contradicted by others right there in the article:
All or most of the casualties being treated at two other hospitals, Kamal Adwan and al-Awda, were said by officials there to have bullet or shrapnel wounds.
It’s wild you just take those officials’ claims as truth when they’re contradicted by others right there in the article:
A Palestinian witness told the BBC most of those who died had been run over as lorry drivers tried to move forward.
I didn’t take any of them as truth, because we don’t know. We do know Israel lies, frequently and blatantly, so believing them over other sources is dumb.
Who is believing them over other sources?
The person I was replying to before you jumped in for some reason apparently without reading the context.
I read just now on the BBC that most of the casualties were due not to gunfire
Well it’s actually because I read the context that made me jump in to ask the question
That poster also said
if what the Beeb say is true, then
And linked an article that has different angles on these killings. I didn’t see any suggestion where he said any of the cited sources were right or wrong
The Beeb didn’t say “most of the casualties were due no to gunfire”. They didn’t say any particular side was true. The OP just chose one side and ignored the other. They’re not trusting BBC, I don’t think any of us think the BBC is making up quotes, they’re selecting trusting a specific source among multiple relayed by BBC.
You are
The Beeb.
Leans Left.
Uh…
I’ve lived in the UK.
The BBC themselves have some years ago published a study by Nottingham University that showed that the BBC favored whatever party was in Government an the time.
The UK Government is currently in the hands of the Brexit faction of the Tories, who are Far-Right populists.
Anybody who thinks the BBC is Left has to be so far to the Right that they’re Fascists of the worse kind, which kinda makes sense given that such people are the ones justifying the actions of the Genocidal Fascist Government of Israel.
When you’re supporting a far right authoritarian genocide…
Pretty much everything “leans left” compared to your own views…
Have you seen much of Jeremy Bowen at all?
In the UK zeitgeist, it’s at least relatively left wing.
Edit: on this specific topic. Not the Toryshambles.
Well tbf you’re not supposed to want to find out about the details of these headlines
Just upvote downvote along with the flow, maybe post something about how horrible things are, and wait for the next one
