The results from the 2023 c/formula1 poll are in
Responses
I’ve been blown away by the 129 responses we had to this poll. This community is growing rapidly and so we got much more feedback than I expected.
Thank you all for taking the time to have your say, it’s really appreciated!
Moderators
I’d like to start by thanking everyone who volunteered to be a moderator.
I’ve added several moderators to the team, all of which should have received a DM from me confirming moderator status, and an invite to the Discord mod chat.
If you can see you are a mod, but didn’t get the DM, please DM me. I know that at least one of you didn’t get the message! Maybe Lemmy wasn’t feeling well when I tried.
If you haven’t been selected to be a moderator, it’s entirely due to me not being able to find a post / comment made by you after a cursory search (if there’s a better way to add a mod, do let me know!). If you’re not currently a moderator and you’d still like to be, please feel free to let me know in here.
Results
I’m sure you’re all excited to see how the polls went, so here we go!
For transparency, a copy of all responses (user names removed) can be found here
Should c/formula1 allow posts with spoilers in the title?
| Option | Count |
|---|---|
| Yes | 45 |
| No | 67 |
| Unsure | 17 |
This was a close one, with “No” winning out with just over 52% (rounded) of the votes. As Brits already know, 52% means Brexit, therefore we will not allow spoilers in post titles.
Please select the types of post you’d like to allow in c/formula1
| Option | Count |
|---|---|
| Live session discussion | 121 |
| Post-race discussion | 127 |
| Social media posts from teams | 110 |
| Image posts (photos / F1 art) | 107 |
| Meme posts | 50 |
| Posts relating to the F1 TV service | 76 |
| Posts relating to other motorsports (eg WEC, Indy Car, Formula E) | 68 |
| Posts linking to F1 news websites | 114 |
| Opinion / technical / statistics pieces by members of c/formula1 | 120 |
| Other | 6 |
It’s clear that whilst there is a demand for all F1 content, memes are the least favourable. There are some formuladank communities already available, so we will not allow memes in here.
We shall link to formuladank in the sidebar, along with any other appropriate communities.
6. Should c/formula1 allow posts covering the following illegal services?
| Option | Count |
|---|---|
| Live race streams | 48 |
| Post-race streams | 32 |
| F1 Torrents | 30 |
| IPTV Services | 24 |
| Other | 76 |
The general opinion was that we should not offer pirate services in this community. The “Other” option was frequently used to express this, as well as the follow-up question #7.
We shall not allow pirate services to be posted in this community. Clarification of what this constitutes will be included in the rules when they are posted.
There were several arguments against this, and I feel that most of us who want to find streams / downloads will be resourceful enough to do so anyway.
8. Should we by and large use the rules from r/formula1 for our community, where possible?
This was the most clear result, with a great majority of you wanting those rules, or something very similar. I’m working on updating the rules and aim to post them after the Canadian GP.
9. Is there anything else you’d like to add?
This was by and large a lovely set of messages showing support for the community. Thank you!
Conclusion
So there you have it! We shall revisit the rules again next year. Please do feel free to message me or any of the other mods, or post in the community if you think there should be a change made somewhere.
Thanks!
Agreed, kinda weird decisions about copying Reddit rules and pirated content. It’s not like this community is being run by FOM, and where’s the harm anyway? People will be sharing links in private messages anyway, so might as well allow that in public and regulate it.
I’m someone who voted against it, and will explain why. But in question 7 I did say I was open to one mega thread for it.
The reason I’m against it is because I don’t have any personal need for it (F1TV subscriber). During the race weekends I like to browse the subreddit (this community now) for updates on many items. I’d like to not have any posts about streams in that feed, but just read the latest / opinions of the sport.
That’s a valid point. Mega thread for streams seems like a good idea, this would make sharing and finding them easier if they are kept in one place. Considering people would probably not only share streams in English but in other languages as well it would also keep cluttering the community to a minimum. I did not consider that before, and I hope people managing this community seriously consider this.
Heya,
For me there are a few reasons to go down this route:
Disallowing piracy enhances the legitimacy of this community. I’d like to establish relationships with F1, teams, and other persons involved in the sport. This would be much harder to do if the first thing they see here is a link to stream or download a race.
Piracy is harder to moderate. We’re not going to be checking every link to ensure there are no viruses and that the content is what it claims to be. We don’t want our users having issues from content they find here.
The majority of the community didn’t want it here, for varying reasons.
You can 100% set up c/formula1withblackjackandhookers if you wanted (though I’d stick with the names of the respective subreddits to be easier found!) and have a place dedicated to F1 / motorsport piracy.
Although I do not necessarily agree with some of these reasons, I understand. For clarity, I am a long time F1TV subscriber, but without pirate streams I would probably never even start watching F1, not to mention less popular motorsports, and I know how difficult it is to find a reliable one. That’s why I was concerned about this. I reckon, as you suggest, a separate community for sharing ways to watch F1 would be a good way to go about this.
F1 being behind a pay wall is a massive concern, I guess that’s what DTS was made to try circumvent. That’s a whole other thread though.
Yeah, it’s fine if you guys don’t want the trouble of posting piracy links to this community. We already had r/motorsportsstreams(2) on Reddit separate for that, and it worked fine. I kinda hope they also decide to move over to the Fediverse even if they need a little instance of their own.
It comes down to liability. Some places are extremely litigious. The responsible party here would likely be the Server owner who would probably like to share the legal love hug with the community owner/mods.
Given that Lemmy.ml is onboard with having discussions about piracy and streaming, I don’t think it’ll be too much of a hassle for people who want those streams (myself included) to simply go to a dedicated community. Imo that’ll help keep this community dedicated to discussions about the race instead of people posting links.