He’s the leftwing outsider who nearly became the Democrats’ candidate for president - twice. As his position on the Israel-Gaza war threatens to upset his support, the veteran senator says he’s tired but determined to fight the return of that ‘ bitter, humiliated man’
    • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      679·
      8 months ago

      Man, it’s crazy how similar that sounds to exactly what Biden has been saying all along:

      And I’ve said many times before: I believe we’re at an inflection point in this country — one of those moments where the decisions we’re about to make can change — literally change the trajectory of our nation for years and possibly decades to come.

      Each inflection point in this nation’s history represents a fundamental choice. I believe that America, at this moment, is facing such a choice. And the choice is this: Are we going to continue with an economy where the overwhelming share of the benefits go to big corporations and the very wealthy? Or are we going to take this moment right now to set this country on a new path — one that invests in this nation; creates real, sustained economic growth; and that benefits everyone, including working people and middle-class folks?

      That’s something we haven’t realized in this country for decades.

      Here’s the simple truth. For a long time, this economy has worked great for those at the very top, while ordinary, hardworking Americans — the people who built this country — have been basically cut out of the deal.

      And I’ve said this from the time I announced I was going to run: I believe this is a moment of potentially great change. This is our moment to deal working people back into the economy. This is our moment to prove to the American people that their government works for them, not just for the big corporations and those at the very top.

      Yet an off-the-cuff remark about asking wealthy people to accept slightly higher taxes is somehow all his breathless detractors want to pretend has ever existed.

      • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
        9·
        8 months ago

        Man, it’s crazy how similar that sounds to exactly what Biden has been saying all along:

        I get your frustration, but this is a good thing. Bernie having the same message only strengthens it, and can convince people that won’t listen to Biden.

        We don’t have the luxury of picking allies. If holding my tongue gets us a reluctant ally, I’ll take it. None of us have to like each other. We just need to remember that fascism is the ultimate evil. We may bicker like dwarves and elves, but when the orcs appear, we need to fall lockstep shoulder to shoulder immediately.

      • crusa187
        3224·
        8 months ago

        Actions speak louder than words. Biden locked in Trump’s $2T tax cuts for the rich and corporations, bringing the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%. Never mind the open loopholes they exploit to pay virtually nothing anyway. Then, Biden claims he wants to bump up the corporate tax rate to 28%, but can’t, for “reasons.”

        What is this halfway corpo-fascist stance? How are we going to pay for that?! By cutting social programs meant to support the working class. Biden is full of shit on this issue, open your eyes.

        • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
          584·
          8 months ago

          Biden locked in Trump’s $2T tax cuts for the rich and corporations, bringing the corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%.

          Nuance glossed over for the sake of partisan shit-flinging:

          He proposed over $3.5 trillion in new taxes, including raising the corporate rate to 28% from 21% and returning the top individual rate to 39.6% from 37% and taxing capital gains at those rates for Americans earning over $1 million. He promised no increases for those earning under $400,000 a year. But opposition from Republicans and Democratic senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema, now an Independent, forced Biden to scale back his revenue plans.

          Then, Biden claims he wants to bump up the corporate tax rate to 28%, but can’t, for “reasons.”

          Yes, reasons. Amazing how Bernie would have had to deal with exactly those same “reasons”, isn’t it?

          Biden is full of shit on this issue, open your eyes.

          Oh they’re quite open. Trust me on that.

          • underisk
            726·
            8 months ago

            If only any of these convenient roadblocks and excuses could have stopped him from repeatedly funding and supporting genocide.

          • crusa187
            424·
            8 months ago

            Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two.

            It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots. At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned.

            • Blackbeard@lemmy.worldEnglish
              212·
              8 months ago

              Let me be clear - Bernie isn’t in office right now. If he were, he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two.

              LMFAO. I don’t even know where to start responding to that fanciful poppycock.

              It’s really too bad that Mr Biden couldn’t arrange an audience with President Manchin during this time to figure something out, since Manchin is calling all the shots.

              A government of multiple representatives from different places who must come to a decision as a group, THE HORROR!!!

              At least they got some things accomplished together. Any and all applicable environmental regs be damned.

              Politician negotiates. More at 11.

              • crusa187
                29·
                8 months ago

                fanciful poppycock

                lol yeah you’re right, Bernie is too nice to have done anything here either, who am I kidding. Successfully navigating these kind of hurdles is not some impossible feat however, despite what the Biden admin and MSNBC might have you think. Consider how FDR dealt with the Dixiecrats. Could Biden have done more along those lines?

                multiple representatives

                Since when are voters represented in Washington? If you’re not a donor, you’ve been left out to dry since the 1970s, full stop. The middle class has been eradicated in this country, if it ever even existed to begin with, and Biden has been a central complicit figure in making that happen.

                negotiates

                Negotiates for what? More drilling, more oil and gas subsidies. And a massive handout for Manchin, who if you believe the pathetic Dem excuses, was the primary reason we couldn’t get anything done after electing Dems into a majority. Again, I call bullshit. Biden doesn’t want to do anything to help the people, and it shows in his actions. idgaf what he reads from his speech writers, I care about what he does.

                • WarmSoda@lemm.ee
                  51·
                  8 months ago

                  We got four star basement politician over here.
                  If everything is so easy, why don’t you run for office?

            • clgoh@lemmy.ca
              73·
              8 months ago

              he’d have likely come up with some way to deal with these two

              And everyone would get a pony.

            • SupahRevs@lemmy.world
              2·
              8 months ago

              Bernie isn’t in office right now.

              Bernie is in office. He is the Chair of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. And he would not be in this position if the Democratic party had not heard what he is saying and agreed to demand government to perform better for the working class.

              https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/in-new-role-as-labor-committee-chair-bernie-sanders-says-corporations-should-be-nervous