Late last year I purchased a 12th gen framework laptop and honestly it’s been pretty good. My biggest issues with it are really the hinge is not strong at all even with the upgraded one, the keyboard is trash, lack of trackpoint with buttons, and lack of IO. Don’t get me wrong I really like this device but I keep thinking I should switch back to my T480. Has anyone else switched back from a framework?

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    1 year ago

    What kind of question is this? Sell the Framework and use the money for maintenance of T480. Buy new batteries (Lenovo original if you can find a source) and dual-pipe heatsink (if your unit is missing the Nvidia gpu). Clean the dust and with compressed air and replace the thermal paste.

    That T480 will serve you eternally. Especially with Linux. If someone is able to port Coreboot with Coreboot configurator into that model, donate some coffee money for the devs.

    What are you even asking? There’s literally zero reasons you to force you to prefer Framework to T480. And some other might prefer Macbook over anything etc. The personal preferences aren’t a reason to force or argue.

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    1 year ago

    I’m doing fine on my trusty T530. You’ll be very powerful on a T480 imho.

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    They’re cool concepts, but I don’t think they’re taking it for me over ThinkPad. They are still better to me and you stated some reasons why. I am attracted to a well-built laptop. It requires a good keyboard, sturdy display assembly hinge, decent I/O, etc. Their 4x TB4 board is cool, but it’s still 4. Even Macbook Pros got better at port selection than Framework IMO. Many of the higher-end ThinkPads destroy Framework on chassis material.

    I am endlessly waiting for them to become ThinkPad 2 and they don’t seem to be going that route. Still waiting for them to implement your wants + I want it in a darker tone. Great machines if you can ignore the faults, just not for me (yet?)

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      I know there is a guy on the Thinkpad subreddit whose working on building a thinkpad keyboard into a framework which might help but i think if someone figures out how to put the fw motherboard into thinkpad chassis that might be the answer

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        The motherboard replacements are definitely one of the selling points of FW. ThinkPad can do that sometimes on a double-generation basis where you get the same chassis per two years and the second-year mainboard can replace the first-year, but that’s around the limit for them in my experience.

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    1 year ago

    I’m hoping the 16" framework will be good. I have P1 gen 4 which I have a love hate relationship with. Hopefully framework can figure out the thermals and still get reasonable battery life when on the go.

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    1 year ago

    Lack of IO? Framework has 4, hasn’t it? How many do you need?

    I’m curious because I’m still using T480 and wishing that Framework will be available here one day soon ^^;

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    1 year ago

    I hadn’t heard that about the framework… Interesting