Threatening messages aimed to prevent digital piracy have the opposite effect if you're a man, a new study from the University of Portsmouth has found. According to the research, women tend to respond positively to this kind of messaging, but men typically increase their piracy behaviors by 18%.
    • Anamana@feddit.de
      32·
      10 months ago

      It’s funny how we see totally different effects there in regards to music, as all apps have almost all of the music. Spotify e.g. is so popular here that noone streams or downloads music illegally anymore. And you only need Spotify.

      The solution is simple. Cave to the labels in power and be ruthless to anyone else. This way you can have the whole catalogue of music in your app while surviving economically. Until… the enshitification becomes too strong again and we’ll have a piracy revival. And then a new service pops up again, etc…

      The circle of life of pop culture under capitalism.

      • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
        28·
        10 months ago

        The really stunning thing about music piracy was it was incredibly easy to do, and your entire catalogue could very easily be taken with you in your pocket and to new devices.

        It’s a miracle we all decided streaming was worth it, they really did make it a better experience than pirating.

        • The_v@lemmy.world
          4·
          10 months ago

          I have yet to listen to all the music on my SD card in my phone. I will get around to it eventually.

          After that I will test out Spotify.

        • Anamana@feddit.de
          4·
          10 months ago

          I mean now you don’t even need your device anymore, the data is available from everyone’s device.

        • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          10 months ago

          I have an enormous music library on a USB drive in my car. Granted, most of the songs weren’t pirated, they were ripped from thrift store CDs, but you can do the same thing with piracy

        • DashboTreeFrog@discuss.onlineEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          I really enjoyed “The Strike” when I discovered them on Spotify, but all of a sudden I noticed all their best songs were gone from my playlists and I found out they made specific albums/songs exclusive to their Bandcamp/physical copies, so I bought them off Band Camp.

          I’ve always been kinda mixed on that move like, they clearly know which of their songs people really wanted, and decided to paywall them outside of a service I already pay for, which feels bad in principle. But at the same time, I like their music and I agree with them getting paid what they think they’re worth.

          I hove no clear cut thoughts or conclusions, but I can totally imagine different bands/artists trying to find the monetization strategy and platform that works for them and leading to bad experiences for consumers.

          • Anamana@feddit.de
            2·
            10 months ago

            I think artists shouldn’t primarily see Spotify etc as a source for monetization, but a way to market their music. Like putting it on YouTube. Most money comes from tours and merch anyways.

        • Anamana@feddit.de
          1·
          10 months ago

          And that’s where Netflix etc went wrong. They still think it’s optional to offer the whole catalogue, but long-term it’s the only way these services can survive. Either via this or account sharing.

          • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            Netflix was kind of not at fault in this. After they pioneered the streaming industry, proving it can be massively profitable to the very resistant studios, the studios yanked their licenses and content off Netflix and spun up their own crappy service, charging just as much as Netflix did for everything. Paramount with Star Trek is a great example of that. Oh, but that wasn’t enough. After getting everyone who was going to subscribe to Paramount for Star Trek to actually subscribe, then they sold the rights to HBO. They’ll slice the pie as many times as they can, selling the ever shrinking pieces for the former price of a whole pie. Netflix saw this coming years ago, which is why they tried so hard to create their own quality content, but it’s just not enough, and usually not good enough to stay subscribed.

            • Anamana@feddit.de
              1·
              10 months ago

              Netflix saw this coming years ago, which is why they tried so hard to create their own quality content, but it’s just not enough, and usually not good enough to stay subscribed.

              Which is why you have to lick the boots of the studios as a streaming service. There’s not much more you can do if you want the whole catalogue. But mb that’s sth that’s just not profitable at this point. Because their cut would endanger your economic sustainability.

              But fucking over streaming services is also not a long-term successful strategy for studios if they want to battle piracy.

              So either they find enough common ground or illegal streaming etc will grow.

        • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          4·
          10 months ago

          Except when the ID3 tags get all messed up and you spend a whole Saturday afternoon fixing your entire library. Granted that’s how I taught myself how to program, so it’s a win/win I guess.

          • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            I support piracy because it’s educational. We need to invest in the future of technology by encouraging people to pirate. To that end, I propose more anti piracy ads.

        • Anamana@feddit.de
          1·
          10 months ago

          Depends on your usecase. I would never go back. Spotify has release radar etc. It’s so much more convenient to find new music by your favourite artists or similar ones now.

      • BoofStroke@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        Plus I can integrate Tidal with my local collection as if I had downloaded it and combine it all on any device wherever I am with Plexamp

  • Wogi@lemmy.world
    72·
    10 months ago

    “you wouldn’t download a car”

    Fuck you yes I would. Invents 3d printing

    It’s like the anti piracy messages are just advertising for piracy

    • Couldbealeotard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      28·
      10 months ago

      The “you wouldn’t download a car” joke is one thing. What I don’t understand is how people genuinely use a satirical joke as a supporting argument for piracy, or a critique of anti-piracy.

      The advertising never said downloading a car. It was stealing a car, which is very clearly a crime.

      You are free to claim auto theft is not comparable to digital piracy. You are free to suggest that somehow in the future you’d be able to home manufacturer a vehicle (although a bit far fetched IMO). But criticizing an ad campaign for something they’ve never said is just silly.

      • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
        10·
        10 months ago

        If I stole someone’s car, and an exact copy of the car was left there for them, I’d probably be okay with stealing a car. Copying a file isn’t the same as stealing a physical album. That’s the criticism of that ad campaign, they aren’t equal comparisons. Besides, if buying isn’t owning, then copying isn’t stealing.

  • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
    45·
    10 months ago

    I mean, they could simply provide all content, in one convenient place, for a reasonable price, and on release.

        • Boingboing@lemmy.world
          13·
          10 months ago

          Early Netflix was great. I stopped pirating. I guess it has been a good 10 years but it’s back to the high seas now.

          • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
            10·
            10 months ago

            Having access to every Star Trek ever was great, but Netflix’s recommendation algorithm was top notch. It gave me things I would never have sought out but loved anyway.

            But since Netflix started just pushing their own shit, regardless of whether I’d like it or whether I’d already watched it or whether it was literally cancelled by Netflix it’s enshittified to the point I don’t know why I still pay for it.

    • thebuoyancyofcitrus@beehaw.org
      3·
      10 months ago

      But would it disappear someday without warning? I’m not one to do a lot of pirating but the times I’m most tempted to take up the habit are when things that were supposed to be “purchased” just disappear and there’s nothing customers can do about it…or when I see some crazy anti-pirating argument. The urge to do it out of spite is real.

      • apis@beehaw.orgEnglish
        2·
        10 months ago

        Depends whether or not they hide some code to give them the option to remote disable your files after you’ve downloaded them, and if they to restrict your ability to create backup copies & play your files on devices you own.

        There’s no reason why they couldn’t make stuff available in ways which buyers could feel confident in.

        • thebuoyancyofcitrus@beehaw.org
          2·
          10 months ago

          I’ve definitely appreciated when certain cool, open minded creators have released content DRM free but they are going against the grain of the big money platforms. But, I agree, like many things that would make the world a little cooler, there’s no concrete reason it couldn’t be done.

          • apis@beehaw.orgEnglish
            3·
            10 months ago

            Likely going to have to be forced on the industry, by some mix of piracy, legislation, reality & artists’ choices.

            Meantime, convenience has considerable sway. For the generations for whom music was expensive & awkward to acquire (& who have the most disposable income now to spend on music as well as the most faith in companies), this still seems easier than pushing back.

  • Pohl@lemmy.world
    16·
    10 months ago

    I imagine for a lot of people an anti piracy campaign simply serves to alert them that piracy is possible and apparently so common and easy that everybody else must be doing it. They probably walk away curious about learning a new hobby more than fearing the consequences.

  • xep@kbin.social
    7·
    10 months ago

    It’s strange that we’ve put so much work into DRM and yet piracy persists. Surely by now the technology would’ve eliminated pirates. Almost as if…

    • agent_flounder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      10 months ago

      …they need better DRM / more anti-piracy laws / more digital thugs to canvas the internet looking for pirates …? /s

      It’s funny how quickly stupid 17 year old me back in the 80s figured out that it was all just a pointless arms race and piracy would never subside until games got affordable. I always told myself I would go legit once I could afford it and I did. That was games. Same principles apply.

  • sadreality@kbin.social
    41·
    10 months ago

    This is us v them issue…

    If these clowns think I will pay for some shiti teevee while having to pay rent and food when i can get teeveet for free… they are about to find out what discretionary spending means and there is nothing they can do about it.

    If they thought shiti PR would change that, these people really dumber than we thought.