Even more major than the current major sanctions…

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    10 months ago

    They never followed international law, and they always acted with impunity.

    They were poisoning people all over Europe and treating their own citizens like shit this whole time. Pretending free access to western markets changed their behaviour is ridiculous.

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      10 months ago

      They’ve clearly gotten worse since they were completely cut out.

      Anyway, sanctions are a spent weapon. That only works when they can’t find buyers and sellers outside the “rules based international order”. That ship has sailed. Sanctions are a dead strategy.

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        10 months ago

        You’ve got it the wrong way around, they’ve gotten cut off because they got worse.

        Yeah, nah. If they weren’t effective, you wouldn’t have Russia complaining about them.

        As for “rules based order”, that phrase is telling. It’s a chud remark, and loops back around to Russia complaining about them.

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          10 months ago

          That phrase is the one the US uses constantly, I’m using it to refer to the ecosystem of the US and its allies. They’re the only people that are enforcing the sanctions.

          And effect how? If the goal is to defeat Russia with sanctions that really doesn’t look likely. Obviously they’d prefer them to go away but only in the sense that they’d prefer to make more money. It’s not stopping them and it can’t.

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            10 months ago

            So your solution is to turn a blind eye to the illegal actions of Russia because “sanctions don’t work”.

            Sorry, but no.

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              10 months ago

              My solution is to try something else instead of just doing the same failed nonsense.

              Perhaps negotiations?