If a machine is never 100% efficient transforming energy into work because part of the energy is converted into heat, does it mean an electric heater is 100% efficient? @showerthoughts@lemmy.world

    • addie@feddit.uk
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      9 months ago

      The sound will eventually dissipate in the air as heat. The light will be absorbed into surfaces, like any other radiation, as heat. Still 100%, but with a couple extra stops along the way.

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        9 months ago

        All energy output will eventually become heat. Why bother measuring efficiency at all if we’re counting those aftereffects?

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          9 months ago

          Only heaters are a machine where the “good” output is one you want to be heat.

          For other devices the heat is the bad part.

          But since your goal with a heater… is to generate heat… and all energy eventually will become heat, it is close to 100% efficient.

          If you can hear the heater’s sound it makes in a room/area you don’t want to be heating though, now it’s <100% efficient as a tiny bit of energy became heat that heated the non ideal location.

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            9 months ago

            Fun fact: this phenomenon is what causes the infamous “hot ear” effect that many people suffer from every day.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah I mean you’d have to consider the practical factors such as how quickly or evenly they can heat up a room rather than worry so much about the raw efficiency.