And why must I create a new ‘article’ to make a thread and not a post - which I think makes a new microblog.

I’m coming from a Mastodon POV, I run my own instance and have a pretty good idea (I think) about how federation works. The way ActivityPub is used is close enough to be familiar but also… not; very uncanny valley.

Additionally, if upvotes are favourites, what are downvotes? and how are they federated?

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    There’s a definition disconnect happening between Reddit refugees and more experienced Fediverse users. Identical terms seem to have different meanings here:

    Reddit: Kbin/Fediverse

    Post: Article or Thread
    Top-level comment/thread: Post
    Comment: Post
    Microblog (No real Reddit equivalent, profile posts maybe)
    Subreddit: Magazine
    Upvote: Boost

    Thus, making a new “post” is called creating a new “article”, while making a top-level comment (starting a new “thread”) or response to that article is making a “post”. Any other comment is also called “posting”.

    It’s confusing as heck, but it’s natural that a different social media ecosystem would have different terminology.

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      There probably isn’t the time or will to do this, but it’d be fun if there was a “Reddit refugee” mode you could set in your profile that swapped all the words out to the more familiar ones. It’d only last until Reddit sent a cease-and-desist over trademark usage but that might still help a lot of people make the transition.

      To make it feel extra-familiar for Reddit refugees, perhaps also cause people with that mode set to occasionally randomly double-post their comments, randomly show them a “You broke kbin!” screen, or maybe even simulate an abusive moderator randomly banning them from communities.

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      Microblog (No real Reddit equivalent)

      You can write on your own user profile in reddit, I’d say is the equivalent to Microblog

      Let’s say you are /u/BaldProphet on Reddit

      You go to your profile, click on “Write new post” and this post will not appear in any subreddit, but only in your own profile. It will appear on the feed on people following you and people who enter in your profile can read and reply those posts

      This feature is mostly used in NSFW profiles (people self-promoting their onlyfans)

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      I’m trying to understand this comment, but i can’t get my head around it. Unfortunately I find the reddit vs fediverse table (is it that?) actually more a hindrance than help. It doesn’t format, at least where I’m looking from (kbin.social on web) so I don’t really understand what it’s trying to communicate.

      It would really help if you could describe what this hierarchy is. It doesn’t even need to be compared to reddit - just a clear explanation. Or of course a link to something that describes it plainly to those who are new to it. Thank you!

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        Kinda ditto. I just created a magazine, went to create content and wasn’t sure whether to add an article or a post—and whether it mattered. Somehow what I posted showed up as a microblog.

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    Articles are Lemmy/Reddit-style posts, microblogs are Mastodon/Twitter-style posts. Kbin is interesting in that it can talk to both types of networks this way.

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      As a new user, I have given you my very first upvote, by putting that in a simple but helpful way. Thanks.

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      Your account can be followed by a Mastodon account. Any Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma/etc. follower will see on her/his feed not only all your posts and comments, but also anything you boosts. Boosts is retweet/reblog.

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      I’m boosting this in hopes that it will help someone explain it as well. Presumably it’s similar to the boost/“re-tweet” in Mastodon, but I’m not sure how that manifests in a site designed to mimic reddit.

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        Yup, boosts are a “I think people should see this button”. @ernest mentioned in a post that boosts bump a post to the top of Active and add points to it being Hot.

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            Upvoting tells the person you are upvoting that you think they are splendid person, who provided good content. It’s the equivalent of a ‘Favourite’ in Mastondon, but doesn’t effect any algorithm, I don’t think

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                It would seem. Upvoting things on reddit didn’t rebroadcast the comment to everyone else, but neither did it have zero effect on the algorithm, and it’s interesting to see it decoupled like this.

                Only, now I’m super paranoid about ever boosting anything. It used to take a fair bit to make me reblog things even on platforms where that was expected, because I didn’t want to bother anyone with stupid stuff. So I’m probably just never going to touch it for at least a year.

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                  Only, now I’m super paranoid about ever boosting anything.
                  I’m kinda feeling the same way. If I’m going to boost something, it had better be pretty darn important or useful. That’s probably a good thing because it means the threads and comments that are boosted are more likely to be higher quality.