Estonia announced that the country may be forced to close its border crossing points with Russia due to increased migration pressures, Estonian Police and Border Guard announced on Feb. 13.

Estonia announced that the country may be forced to close its border crossing points with Russia due to increased migration pressures, Estonian Police and Border Guard announced on Feb. 13.

“In recent weeks, Russia has deliberately directed to the Estonian border groups of foreigners lacking the legal right to enter the European Union,” the statement reads. “If these activities continue, we will be forced to close border crossing points to protect national security and public order, as has already been done in Finland due to migration pressure.”

The Estonian government has noted an influx of migrants and asylum seekers from Russia over recent months.

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  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    149·
    9 months ago

    are they being badly treated? forcefully enlisted? killed?

    In thousands of cases, yes.

    their life is the same as before the full-scale invasion

    Bullshit. The overbroad sanctions and boycotts as well as acts of the tyrannical Putin government have changed the lives of almost all Russians and foreign residents dramatically for the worse.

    their life is the same as before 2014.

    Again, talking out of your ass.

    so why the heck do they need protection?

    For the same reason as all other refugees: because they’re fleeing violence, oppression and societal collapse.

    • ALERT@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      85·
      9 months ago

      We had this with Yanukovich. Got rid of him. Maybe instead of fleeing, they should take over their country? The question is rhetorical.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        68·
        9 months ago

        Comparing Yanukovic to Putin is like comparing apples and orchards. Putin is so much more powerful and entrenched that the very notion is ridiculous.

        Here’s a rhetorical question for you: are you arguing in bad faith or are you just an absolute moron?

        • ALERT@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          82·
          9 months ago

          I’m just a Ukrainian living in Kyiv. If I were living in Eastern Ukraine, I would have wished them all dead.

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
            412·
            9 months ago

            I’m sorry for what you and your country are going through, but it doesn’t mean you know anything about how powerful and entrenched the Russian government is. Clearly.

            If I were living in Eastern Ukraine, I would have wished them all dead.

            The ones LEAVING Russia to AVOID the war? They’ve never done anything against you.

            • Windex007@lemmy.worldEnglish
              72·
              9 months ago

              I thank God every day that this Ukrainian has you to educate him on the nuances of Ukrainian/Russian politics.

              • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
                26·
                9 months ago

                Being Ukrainian doesn’t make it any less wrong to assume that it’s easy to overthrow Putin and demand that refugees should stay in countries that are likely to kill them and/or force them to kill others.

                • Windex007@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  42·
                  9 months ago

                  Maybe, but your faith that Putin’s power is absolute, that he is immune to being overthrown is just as flawed.

                  Why is his table so long? Why has he done several brutal purges of his personal guard? Why has he installed members of his personal guard to high ranking military posts?

                  These are the actions of a man who looks into a crystal ball and says “wow, getting crushed by a popular uprising is on the menu for me”

                  Recal how few rednecks it takes to storm a capital building. Recall the relative density of rednecks in Russia.

                  I’m glad that you have complete faith that an uprising couldn’t topple Putin’s regime. You should tell Putin, I think he would find incredible comfort in your expert analysis.

                  And you need to understand the how flat your words must fall on the ears of those who literally have participated in such an uprising as you brush off as impossible.

                  I agree with you that harming refugees is bad. That discussion sits in the domain of humanitarian ethics, something that I think we all have the prerequisite knowledge for, assuming we have the capacity for human empathy.

                  On the topic of uprising against a Russian leader, I think you need to accept that your armchair assessment has been informed by a significant amount of propeganda from either side, and that you might not be as much an authority as you might imagine yourself